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I'm sorry but they will not do a single thing about it. Just recently in Brazil a pregnant, transgender man was almost killed by an Uber driver and he didn't ev

I'm sorry but they will not do a single thing about it. Just recently in Brazil a pregnant, transgender man was almost killed by an Uber driver and he didn't even get so much as a response back from the platform. There are public videos of the man threatening to kill them (he was with his girlfriend) while they were still in the car and Uber did nothing. On a more similar note, my girlfriend last year called an Uber, and after 30 minutes of waiting for it to arrive, the person simply canceled the ride claiming she wasn't wearing a mask (they never even came close to my girlfriend, and she was definitely wearing a mask). We tried contacting support to at the very least refund us the ridiculous fee, but nothing was ever done. Avoid Uber like the plague.

elmerfud 5y ago
Sad, but I believe you're correct,. especially in regards to Uber in other countries. I'm glad Grab bought it Uber in most Asian markets. Grab has some annoying security checks of you get flagged but they are much better in their customer service.
ipaddr 5y ago
A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work.. if the person was a female but become a male the parts wouldn't be available for a baby. Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male. How does someone identify as a male but still want a baby.
- elmerfud 5y ago
  Transgender woman, is a biological (is this the correct terminology?) That is transitioning to a woman. So a transgender man or trans man as I've heard referred to, is a biological female transitioning to a man. So yes they can get pregnant, because it's only very late in the process (and optional) to have a hysterectomy and a male genitals created. Many/some do not opt for this as the male genitals aren't really functional in the way you'd expect. They use a prosthetic instead.
- UncleMeat 5y ago
  Loads of people don't get bottom surgery.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  > A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work.. A person with a uterus, who thinks of themselves as a man, had one of their eggs inseminated. More specifically: a person who is biologically female but self-identifies as a man -- and who has not had certain types of sex reassignment surgery -- either (1) had penetrative sex with a biological man, or else (2) was artificially inseminated. > Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male Your (totally reasonable) confusion on this point is mostly definitional: "transgender" does not imply sex reassignment surgery. In fact, sex reassignment surgery is still very uncommon among transgender people [1]. (Fun history lesson: In the 60s it would have been a contradiction of terms to say that a transgender person wanted a sex reassignment surgery! The term was originally coined to refer specifically to people who didn't want such surgeries, with terms like "transsexual" or "transvestite" referring to those who did want surgery/hormone therapy. Today, the latter terms are out-moded and the term "transgender" has become a catch-all. But if we want to get puritanical about the meanings of words, which I think is a bit silly of course, we would actually go the opposite direction of the one you assumed -- it would be definitionally contradictory to use the term "transgender" to refer to someone who has received a sex reassignment surgery. This is all unimportant trivia, and today "transgender" implies nothing about surgery/hormone therapy preference, but hopefully this was an interesting history lesson for word nerds.) > How does someone identify as a male but still want a baby. Well, first, OP mentioned Brazil, which makes the "want" part perhaps presumptuous since abortion is illegal in Brazil. Aside from that, drop any pre-conceptions you have about trans people and just read the sentence back to yourself. I.e., consider the sentence: "How does a man still want to have a baby?" Lots of men want to have babies that are biologically "theirs". You've correctly identified that this desire can be a bit more complicated/disorienting for trans men, but the desire for a biological child is pretty universal among all life forms on earth. Trans homo sapiens aren't an exception. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    That makes a lot of sense. The DNA part I would have never considered.
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  > Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male. This isn't the case. You don't need to make any kind of surgery to be a trans person.
- sph 5y ago
  I am appalled how this person asked a question, out of ignorance, yes, but politely and it got censored, flagged and their comment hidden. I have vouched it back from the dead. How are people supposed to understand if the approach taken by the educated ones is of censorship and taboo? I extremely appreciate @throwawaygh below answering the question clearly and teaching OP a valuable point of view of the matter, without prejudice or indignation of someone else's ignorance. Shame on those who just preferred to censor the question. This is not how we build an inclusive society. I expect better of this site.
  - Kaze404 5y ago
    Unfortunately this is a more complicated subject than it seems for transgender people. So often we have to deal with people saying the most horrific things under the guise of "I'm just asking questions" that we have to, out of self defense, try and identify when someone is legitimately confused or just concern trolling. That said, thank you for reviving their comment as I personally don't think there was anything wrong with it specifically. Just trying to shed some light on why some people might have interpreted it differently.
    - throwawaygh 5y ago
      > So often we have to deal with people saying the most horrific things under the guise of "I'm just asking questions" It's true. "I'm just asking questions" is definitely a routine used to harass trans people. It's probably the most common routine now that overt transphobia is less socially acceptable. I doubt there's a single trans person in the US -- outside of very cloistered bubbles -- who hasn't been harassed by a troll who was pretending to "jut ask questions". My MIL is one of those people -- she's even gone through the same line of questions on the same exact person (1+ year apart, forgot she already met the person). Which is why she's no longer welcome in polite company. The point: I'm not saying that removing people from some social contexts is never the answer. Sometimes that's the best course of action. But here's the thing. "Just Asking Questions" trolling is a particularly insidious and ingenious routine. Sure, it's mean and petty with plausible deniability. But that's not why it's so genius. Using this routine en masse is a genius move by anti-trans hate groups because it actively shuts down education, which is ultimately the best way we know to increase public acceptance of transgender people. We can't do anything about recalcitrant assholes except cut them out of some parts of our lives. But we can disallow them the pleasure of shutting down education and thereby reinforcing their own ignorance in the broader population. Anyways, that's a long-winded way of saying "kill them with kindness". If they were genuinely curious then your kindness just won trans people an ally. If they were trolling then the only way to cut past the plausible deniability bullshit is to avoid direct anger and beat them at their own "pastor's wife bless-your-heart" game. And anyways, there's something viscerally pleasing about a midwesterner who didn't know you're a midwest transplant slowing realize they're being out-midwested... much more pleasing than having to deal with an asshole accusing you of being mean to them when they were "just asking questions" ;-) But the main point is, it doesn't matter if they're trolling or genuine! In both cases, responding with direct anger to questions in the moment is a losing strategy. The troll gets to play victim and the genuinely uneducated are put on the defensive. (And, yes, it's unreasonable that trans people are so often de facto representatives of all trans people in every daily interaction. I'm just describing the micro-political strategy and not trying to imply there's anything wrong with being a normal human instead of a political operative.)
- CodeGlitch 5y ago
  > A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work It doesn't work. Words are being changed to mean different things, and new words and terms are being invented to win arguments. "Newspeak".
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- Kaze404 5y ago
  A transgender man is a man who was assigned female at birth (in this case). Meaning they have a uterus and all that.
AnonHP 5y ago
I’m replying here to avoid occupying “top space” in the comments section. Also upvoting this post for better visibility in the hope that some helpful advice or connection arises. Overall, I agree with the assessment here. It doesn’t matter which country you’re in, Uber doesn’t care much for customers and its customer service is abysmal (standard copy paste non-answers or ignoring you). The Uber customer support team will do everything possible to snatch money from you and avoid compensating you even for their fault. I thought Uber may be a better company after its previous CEO (Travis Kalanick) and his coterie were ousted or left. But the reality on the ground is still the same as what it was some years ago.
vadfa 5y ago
Based

elmerfud 5y ago

Sad, but I believe you're correct,. especially in regards to Uber in other countries. I'm glad Grab bought it Uber in most Asian markets. Grab has some annoying security checks of you get flagged but they are much better in their customer service.

ipaddr 5y ago

A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work.. if the person was a female but become a male the parts wouldn't be available for a baby. Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male. How does someone identify as a male but still want a baby.

elmerfud 5y ago
Transgender woman, is a biological (is this the correct terminology?) That is transitioning to a woman. So a transgender man or trans man as I've heard referred to, is a biological female transitioning to a man. So yes they can get pregnant, because it's only very late in the process (and optional) to have a hysterectomy and a male genitals created. Many/some do not opt for this as the male genitals aren't really functional in the way you'd expect. They use a prosthetic instead.
UncleMeat 5y ago
Loads of people don't get bottom surgery.
throwawaygh 5y ago
> A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work.. A person with a uterus, who thinks of themselves as a man, had one of their eggs inseminated. More specifically: a person who is biologically female but self-identifies as a man -- and who has not had certain types of sex reassignment surgery -- either (1) had penetrative sex with a biological man, or else (2) was artificially inseminated. > Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male Your (totally reasonable) confusion on this point is mostly definitional: "transgender" does not imply sex reassignment surgery. In fact, sex reassignment surgery is still very uncommon among transgender people [1]. (Fun history lesson: In the 60s it would have been a contradiction of terms to say that a transgender person wanted a sex reassignment surgery! The term was originally coined to refer specifically to people who didn't want such surgeries, with terms like "transsexual" or "transvestite" referring to those who did want surgery/hormone therapy. Today, the latter terms are out-moded and the term "transgender" has become a catch-all. But if we want to get puritanical about the meanings of words, which I think is a bit silly of course, we would actually go the opposite direction of the one you assumed -- it would be definitionally contradictory to use the term "transgender" to refer to someone who has received a sex reassignment surgery. This is all unimportant trivia, and today "transgender" implies nothing about surgery/hormone therapy preference, but hopefully this was an interesting history lesson for word nerds.) > How does someone identify as a male but still want a baby. Well, first, OP mentioned Brazil, which makes the "want" part perhaps presumptuous since abortion is illegal in Brazil. Aside from that, drop any pre-conceptions you have about trans people and just read the sentence back to yourself. I.e., consider the sentence: "How does a man still want to have a baby?" Lots of men want to have babies that are biologically "theirs". You've correctly identified that this desire can be a bit more complicated/disorienting for trans men, but the desire for a biological child is pretty universal among all life forms on earth. Trans homo sapiens aren't an exception. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/
- ipaddr 5y ago
  That makes a lot of sense. The DNA part I would have never considered.
nextaccountic 5y ago
> Without surgery they are female with female parts but identify as male so dressing up as a male. This isn't the case. You don't need to make any kind of surgery to be a trans person.
sph 5y ago
I am appalled how this person asked a question, out of ignorance, yes, but politely and it got censored, flagged and their comment hidden. I have vouched it back from the dead. How are people supposed to understand if the approach taken by the educated ones is of censorship and taboo? I extremely appreciate @throwawaygh below answering the question clearly and teaching OP a valuable point of view of the matter, without prejudice or indignation of someone else's ignorance. Shame on those who just preferred to censor the question. This is not how we build an inclusive society. I expect better of this site.
- Kaze404 5y ago
  Unfortunately this is a more complicated subject than it seems for transgender people. So often we have to deal with people saying the most horrific things under the guise of "I'm just asking questions" that we have to, out of self defense, try and identify when someone is legitimately confused or just concern trolling. That said, thank you for reviving their comment as I personally don't think there was anything wrong with it specifically. Just trying to shed some light on why some people might have interpreted it differently.
  - throwawaygh 5y ago
    > So often we have to deal with people saying the most horrific things under the guise of "I'm just asking questions" It's true. "I'm just asking questions" is definitely a routine used to harass trans people. It's probably the most common routine now that overt transphobia is less socially acceptable. I doubt there's a single trans person in the US -- outside of very cloistered bubbles -- who hasn't been harassed by a troll who was pretending to "jut ask questions". My MIL is one of those people -- she's even gone through the same line of questions on the same exact person (1+ year apart, forgot she already met the person). Which is why she's no longer welcome in polite company. The point: I'm not saying that removing people from some social contexts is never the answer. Sometimes that's the best course of action. But here's the thing. "Just Asking Questions" trolling is a particularly insidious and ingenious routine. Sure, it's mean and petty with plausible deniability. But that's not why it's so genius. Using this routine en masse is a genius move by anti-trans hate groups because it actively shuts down education, which is ultimately the best way we know to increase public acceptance of transgender people. We can't do anything about recalcitrant assholes except cut them out of some parts of our lives. But we can disallow them the pleasure of shutting down education and thereby reinforcing their own ignorance in the broader population. Anyways, that's a long-winded way of saying "kill them with kindness". If they were genuinely curious then your kindness just won trans people an ally. If they were trolling then the only way to cut past the plausible deniability bullshit is to avoid direct anger and beat them at their own "pastor's wife bless-your-heart" game. And anyways, there's something viscerally pleasing about a midwesterner who didn't know you're a midwest transplant slowing realize they're being out-midwested... much more pleasing than having to deal with an asshole accusing you of being mean to them when they were "just asking questions" ;-) But the main point is, it doesn't matter if they're trolling or genuine! In both cases, responding with direct anger to questions in the moment is a losing strategy. The troll gets to play victim and the genuinely uneducated are put on the defensive. (And, yes, it's unreasonable that trans people are so often de facto representatives of all trans people in every daily interaction. I'm just describing the micro-political strategy and not trying to imply there's anything wrong with being a normal human instead of a political operative.)
CodeGlitch 5y ago
> A pregnant transgendered man? How does that work It doesn't work. Words are being changed to mean different things, and new words and terms are being invented to win arguments. "Newspeak".
- deleted 5y ago
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Kaze404 5y ago
A transgender man is a man who was assigned female at birth (in this case). Meaning they have a uterus and all that.

AnonHP 5y ago

I’m replying here to avoid occupying “top space” in the comments section. Also upvoting this post for better visibility in the hope that some helpful advice or connection arises. Overall, I agree with the assessment here. It doesn’t matter which country you’re in, Uber doesn’t care much for customers and its customer service is abysmal (standard copy paste non-answers or ignoring you). The Uber customer support team will do everything possible to snatch money from you and avoid compensating you even for their fault. I thought Uber may be a better company after its previous CEO (Travis Kalanick) and his coterie were ousted or left. But the reality on the ground is still the same as what it was some years ago.

vadfa 5y ago

Based