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So the speculation is that because he had free transcoding software on his desktop, that he understands transcoding?

ed25519FUUU 5y ago
The generous explanation is that it’s just a coincidence that he had handbrake installed. The malicious explanation is that he intentionally downgraded the video quality with handbrake (or some other means) before handing over the evidence. Keeping in mind that the video was the only thing shared with Kyle’s lawyer that was not shared via Dropbox, per his lawyer.
- abernard1 5y ago
  > The malicious explanation is that he intentionally downgraded the video quality with handbrake The problem is that in the trial, the prosecution actually said "Our versions are much clearer". They also used algorithmic enhancements and blowups on the bad copy to show to the court. Here's the link (https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1461034426717122572 https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1461034426717122572) but I remember watching this in the trial and people were commenting on it in realtime. The defense even mentioned they weren't given the copy.
adamrezich 5y ago
it was one of only a very few icons on the desktop, including the folders "New Folder", "OpenOffice 4.1.6 (en-US) installation f...", "Temp", and "Final Exhibits", and the shortcuts "Coolmuster Android Backup Manager", "Format Factory", "Handbrake", "MessengerLite", "Person 1 - Chrome", and "Zoom".
- woodruffw 5y ago
  Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those applications/desktop icons scream "technically savvy" person to me.
  - kybernetikos 5y ago
    It sounds like the kind of thing a technically savvy person might set up as a base install for a non-technically savvy person.
h3h3 5y ago
Here is what actually happened and the prosecution later admitted it. (they first blamed it on the defense android phone) 1. Prosecution receives the file via airdrop, direct data transfer. 2. Prosecution sends the file via gmail to the defense but it gets compressed in the process. There are 2 ways to send a vid/pic from ios with gmail 1. from gmail app with attachment function, this pops up a window with "processing" (compresses the video, which is poorly worded imo) 2. from ios photos app > share > gmail, this shows a progress bar at the bottom with "compressing" both ways are easy to overlook, first one is poorly worded and its a very fast process, my test vid with 25mb took <1s and video in question is only 4s/11mb the real question is, why is there no proper evidence system in place to submit and review(for all 3 parties), using gmail and dropbox sounds very questionable to me.
- antisthenes 5y ago
  > 2. Prosecution sends the file via gmail to the defense but it gets compressed in the process. Does Gmail automatically compress the video? I would presume it complains about size file first, and an inability to send it via email, and refuses to send.
  - h3h3 5y ago
    It did not in my testing with a 22mb file, it directly showed up "processing" or "compressing". The iOS mail app did the same for my test video 22mb > 458K, no questions asked. (unlike images where app lets you select resize options)
    - kcjames1138 5y ago
      In your testing, did gmail also rename the file? Because Binger's copy, the one that was sent to the lab on a flash drive had a completely different name.

The generous explanation is that it’s just a coincidence that he had handbrake installed. The malicious explanation is that he intentionally downgraded the video quality with handbrake (or some other means) before handing over the evidence. Keeping in mind that the video was the only thing shared with Kyle’s lawyer that was not shared via Dropbox, per his lawyer.

abernard1 5y ago
> The malicious explanation is that he intentionally downgraded the video quality with handbrake The problem is that in the trial, the prosecution actually said "Our versions are much clearer". They also used algorithmic enhancements and blowups on the bad copy to show to the court. Here's the link (https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1461034426717122572 https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1461034426717122572) but I remember watching this in the trial and people were commenting on it in realtime. The defense even mentioned they weren't given the copy.

adamrezich 5y ago

it was one of only a very few icons on the desktop, including the folders "New Folder", "OpenOffice 4.1.6 (en-US) installation f...", "Temp", and "Final Exhibits", and the shortcuts "Coolmuster Android Backup Manager", "Format Factory", "Handbrake", "MessengerLite", "Person 1 - Chrome", and "Zoom".

woodruffw 5y ago
Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those applications/desktop icons scream "technically savvy" person to me.
- kybernetikos 5y ago
  It sounds like the kind of thing a technically savvy person might set up as a base install for a non-technically savvy person.

h3h3 5y ago

Here is what actually happened and the prosecution later admitted it. (they first blamed it on the defense android phone) 1. Prosecution receives the file via airdrop, direct data transfer. 2. Prosecution sends the file via gmail to the defense but it gets compressed in the process. There are 2 ways to send a vid/pic from ios with gmail 1. from gmail app with attachment function, this pops up a window with "processing" (compresses the video, which is poorly worded imo) 2. from ios photos app > share > gmail, this shows a progress bar at the bottom with "compressing" both ways are easy to overlook, first one is poorly worded and its a very fast process, my test vid with 25mb took <1s and video in question is only 4s/11mb the real question is, why is there no proper evidence system in place to submit and review(for all 3 parties), using gmail and dropbox sounds very questionable to me.

antisthenes 5y ago
> 2. Prosecution sends the file via gmail to the defense but it gets compressed in the process. Does Gmail automatically compress the video? I would presume it complains about size file first, and an inability to send it via email, and refuses to send.
- h3h3 5y ago
  It did not in my testing with a 22mb file, it directly showed up "processing" or "compressing". The iOS mail app did the same for my test video 22mb > 458K, no questions asked. (unlike images where app lets you select resize options)
  - kcjames1138 5y ago
    In your testing, did gmail also rename the file? Because Binger's copy, the one that was sent to the lab on a flash drive had a completely different name.