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> Encryption is indistinguishable from noise. So the difference between a high power encrypted transmission and high power jammer is semantic The difference, f

> Encryption is indistinguishable from noise. So the difference between a high power encrypted transmission and high power jammer is semantic The difference, from an RF perspective, of an encrypted signal and a non encrypted signal is non-existent as the encryption takes place before the modulator. Therefore encrypted signals won't impact the noise flow for everyone in the band. This would only occur if the operator were using frequency hopping. >you're still monopolizing part of a very small band with a private conversation preventing others from using the shared resource Depending on the technology used in the receiver, this also isn't true. There are numerous techniques to allow for multiple carriers on the same band. CDMA for example would allow for this. It would take some coordination to make sure each carrier is using a different code but should be feasible for amateur radio operators. It all depends on how sophisticated their receiver is. >Error correction necessitates a higher duty cycle This is true and is why encrypted signals have lower data rates. So instead of having a longer transmission you lower the data rate to get the same effect.

rharb 5y ago
Ham bands are pretty small. Like the two most popular HF bands are only 300-350 kHz and not all of them are allocated for voice.
giantrobot 5y ago
> Therefore encrypted signals won't impact the noise flow for everyone in the band. This would only occur if the operator were using frequency hopping. While the encrypted transmission will look like a regular digital mode the fact it can't decrypt the decoded symbols means it's effectively noise. Ham bands are for all hams. There are innumerable other ways to have a private conversation with targeted recipients. > Depending on the technology used in the receiver, this also isn't true. There are numerous techniques to allow for multiple carriers on the same band. CDMA for example would allow for this. It would take some coordination to make sure each carrier is using a different code but should be feasible for amateur radio operators. It all depends on how sophisticated their receiver is. Ham bands already have de facto CSMA, you wait for open air to transmit.

rharb 5y ago

Ham bands are pretty small. Like the two most popular HF bands are only 300-350 kHz and not all of them are allocated for voice.

giantrobot 5y ago

> Therefore encrypted signals won't impact the noise flow for everyone in the band. This would only occur if the operator were using frequency hopping. While the encrypted transmission will look like a regular digital mode the fact it can't decrypt the decoded symbols means it's effectively noise. Ham bands are for all hams. There are innumerable other ways to have a private conversation with targeted recipients. > Depending on the technology used in the receiver, this also isn't true. There are numerous techniques to allow for multiple carriers on the same band. CDMA for example would allow for this. It would take some coordination to make sure each carrier is using a different code but should be feasible for amateur radio operators. It all depends on how sophisticated their receiver is. Ham bands already have de facto CSMA, you wait for open air to transmit.