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I don't think these people realize the futility of their effort. The US Constitution isn't something to be bought and sold. Assigning a dollar value to it is th

I don't think these people realize the futility of their effort. The US Constitution isn't something to be bought and sold. Assigning a dollar value to it is the literal anti-thesis of everything that is outlined in the document itself.

KoftaBob 5y ago
"For the first time in thirty-three years, one of thirteen surviving copies of the Official Edition from the Constitutional Convention will be publicly auctioned by Sotheby's. It is one of the two copies that are still owned by private collectors. The proceeds from the auction will be given to a charity that has been established by the current owner. ConstitutionDAO is a DAO that is pooling together money to win this auction. We intend to put The Constitution in the hands of The People. " It's a copy of the original.
- holonomically 5y ago
  I understand what they're doing. The Constitution already belongs to the people, no copies need to be bought or sold for this to be the case. That's what I mean by futility of their effort. Their project betrays a profound misunderstanding of the US Constitution.
  - KoftaBob 5y ago
    Yeah in terms of that, it seems like it's hyperbolic metaphor that the crypto community loves to throw around.
- deleted 5y ago
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- UncleEntity 5y ago
  > It's a copy of the original. In the same way a Gutenberg Bible is "a copy of the original" I suppose...
casi18 5y ago
its fun. and it demos how these tools can be used for rapid mass coordination.
- holonomically 5y ago
  It doesn't demonstrate any of that. This was pumped on Twitter, Reddit, and other centralized aggregators which defeats the entire argument about decentralized mass coordination.
  - casi18 5y ago
    fine, i cant be bothered with hn anymore. so you can say ok its discord and twitter. but crypto is fun. people will keep having fun. we can ignore that and write it off as has been the case for the past ten years, or we can recognise 10% of americans have coinbase app installed. that this is reality. and people can keep saying "we could do this without crypto" but it doesnt change the fact we didnt do it without crypto, we did it with crypto. and then can start to investigate why that is, or bury our heads in the sand saying "show me a real use case" we can start to investigate why thousands of people are willing to essentially donate money towards a meme, what that sense of community and collective ownership is about, and what this means for the future, and how this tech is enabling that and how we can channel it -> there already talks of BailFundDAO and ReparationsDAO off the back of this...
    - holonomically 5y ago
      I can see why you're exasperate but you can also see why sensible people don't think crypto is anything more than a toy. So far it has had no positive real world impact. Most aspects of crypto are dominated by childish memes which drives away sensible people from investing time and effort into doing something meaningful with the technology. The childish culture will have to change for the technology to have any meaningful impact.
      - keymone 5y ago
        i generally agree, but > So far it has had no positive real world impact lots of opposition politicians in repressive regimes are currently funded using bitcoin, so be careful with generalizations

KoftaBob 5y ago

"For the first time in thirty-three years, one of thirteen surviving copies of the Official Edition from the Constitutional Convention will be publicly auctioned by Sotheby's. It is one of the two copies that are still owned by private collectors. The proceeds from the auction will be given to a charity that has been established by the current owner. ConstitutionDAO is a DAO that is pooling together money to win this auction. We intend to put The Constitution in the hands of The People. " It's a copy of the original.

holonomically 5y ago
I understand what they're doing. The Constitution already belongs to the people, no copies need to be bought or sold for this to be the case. That's what I mean by futility of their effort. Their project betrays a profound misunderstanding of the US Constitution.
- KoftaBob 5y ago
  Yeah in terms of that, it seems like it's hyperbolic metaphor that the crypto community loves to throw around.
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UncleEntity 5y ago
> It's a copy of the original. In the same way a Gutenberg Bible is "a copy of the original" I suppose...

casi18 5y ago

its fun. and it demos how these tools can be used for rapid mass coordination.

holonomically 5y ago
It doesn't demonstrate any of that. This was pumped on Twitter, Reddit, and other centralized aggregators which defeats the entire argument about decentralized mass coordination.
- casi18 5y ago
  fine, i cant be bothered with hn anymore. so you can say ok its discord and twitter. but crypto is fun. people will keep having fun. we can ignore that and write it off as has been the case for the past ten years, or we can recognise 10% of americans have coinbase app installed. that this is reality. and people can keep saying "we could do this without crypto" but it doesnt change the fact we didnt do it without crypto, we did it with crypto. and then can start to investigate why that is, or bury our heads in the sand saying "show me a real use case" we can start to investigate why thousands of people are willing to essentially donate money towards a meme, what that sense of community and collective ownership is about, and what this means for the future, and how this tech is enabling that and how we can channel it -> there already talks of BailFundDAO and ReparationsDAO off the back of this...
  - holonomically 5y ago
    I can see why you're exasperate but you can also see why sensible people don't think crypto is anything more than a toy. So far it has had no positive real world impact. Most aspects of crypto are dominated by childish memes which drives away sensible people from investing time and effort into doing something meaningful with the technology. The childish culture will have to change for the technology to have any meaningful impact.
    - keymone 5y ago
      i generally agree, but > So far it has had no positive real world impact lots of opposition politicians in repressive regimes are currently funded using bitcoin, so be careful with generalizations