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Didn't this case [0] set a precedence that "scraping is not against the law" irregardless of EULA? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn https

Didn't this case [0] set a precedence that "scraping is not against the law" irregardless of EULA? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiQ_Labs_v._LinkedIn

moritonal 5y ago
So it was proven that it's not a criminal offence to scrap a website, but a website is still well within it's rights to ban you from doing so.
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wccrawford 5y ago
"using data that is publicly available" If the user is logged in, that data may not be publicly available, and the EULA would still apply.
detuur 5y ago
This might be true in the USA, but the EU has a thing called database rights[0]. Essentially, any collection of data can under certain circumstances be protected under database rights, which prevents other parties from copying (parts of) it. This originally was created to protect such things as phone books and other directories, but when I was a student (I don't remember the context anymore), they specifically warned us that scraping certain websites would violate their database rights, and thus be illegal. So using scrapers in the EU is something you should be very careful with, especially if your business depends on it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right
catskul2 5y ago
Pedantry: regardless
- kreeben 5y ago
  You pedantic piece of... nah I'm just kidding, Thank you. I actually learned English by watching Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson and Sylvester Stallone movies, so my grammar might be slightly off from time to time, but google actually agrees with me when I say: irregardless == regardless.
  - Jugurtha 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless I dislike that word more than I dislike "nucular". Like diarrhea, anyone can let it slip.
    - kreeben 5y ago
      Ah, so people've been making this mistake for over two hundred years but thanks to people like you, this misuse of language has been all but eradicated? Radicated? ;)
      - Jugurtha 5y ago
        That is quite the pun! I tend to remind people who think that this is an error that, although I share their disliking... - There is a case for the word and it predates us - Languages are dynamic and today's "correct" spelling is yesterday's "erroneous" spelling. I thought until recently that the spelling was "simply incorrect" until I found out there was more to it. It therefore is a reminder to myself as well.

moritonal 5y ago

So it was proven that it's not a criminal offence to scrap a website, but a website is still well within it's rights to ban you from doing so.

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wccrawford 5y ago

"using data that is publicly available" If the user is logged in, that data may not be publicly available, and the EULA would still apply.

detuur 5y ago

This might be true in the USA, but the EU has a thing called database rights[0]. Essentially, any collection of data can under certain circumstances be protected under database rights, which prevents other parties from copying (parts of) it. This originally was created to protect such things as phone books and other directories, but when I was a student (I don't remember the context anymore), they specifically warned us that scraping certain websites would violate their database rights, and thus be illegal. So using scrapers in the EU is something you should be very careful with, especially if your business depends on it. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right

catskul2 5y ago

Pedantry: regardless

kreeben 5y ago
You pedantic piece of... nah I'm just kidding, Thank you. I actually learned English by watching Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson and Sylvester Stallone movies, so my grammar might be slightly off from time to time, but google actually agrees with me when I say: irregardless == regardless.
- Jugurtha 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless I dislike that word more than I dislike "nucular". Like diarrhea, anyone can let it slip.
  - kreeben 5y ago
    Ah, so people've been making this mistake for over two hundred years but thanks to people like you, this misuse of language has been all but eradicated? Radicated? ;)
    - Jugurtha 5y ago
      That is quite the pun! I tend to remind people who think that this is an error that, although I share their disliking... - There is a case for the word and it predates us - Languages are dynamic and today's "correct" spelling is yesterday's "erroneous" spelling. I thought until recently that the spelling was "simply incorrect" until I found out there was more to it. It therefore is a reminder to myself as well.