> Philosophy itself, in fact, was born when people took the concepts used in geometry and started using them to build systems of ideas What? Philosophy and geo

> Philosophy itself, in fact, was born when people took the concepts used in geometry and started using them to build systems of ideas What? Philosophy and geometry both date to prehistory and we find them co-evolving in the west through many separate ideological movements. It's ridiculous to talk about which one came first. Moreover, when people talk of "concepts used in geometry" as a distinct thing they usually mean Euclidean or at oldest Pythagorean - earlier than that and geometry is considerably more numerical and difficult to distinguish from any other math or astronomy. But philosophy significantly predates that kind of geometric concept - "Know thyself" is hardly a mathematical directive!