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> Almost as if they've seen a shortcoming A shortcoming for _their_ goals. Their goals are at odds with what is best for us. It is a good thing the micro-b MoU

> Almost as if they've seen a shortcoming A shortcoming for _their_ goals. Their goals are at odds with what is best for us. It is a good thing the micro-b MoU did not have any teeth.

input_sh 5y ago
I can't speak on behalf of anyone but myself, but when that goal is less e-waste, their goal sure does align with mine, even if it may take me 20 extra minutes to charge my devices when something better than type C comes around. If I can charge my laptop with it, it's surely good enough for charging devices with a much smaller battery at least for the next decade or so.
- admax88qqq 5y ago
  Are chargers really a significant source of e-waste? E-waste is a direct consequence of technology progress. We're not still all using 486s. Technology advances, people want that new stuff. I would wager charging ports are insignificant.
  - Ygg2 5y ago
    Hey on my Android, I'm happy to reuse my old chargers. It would be another thing if I was on Apple ecosystem.
    - kergonath 5y ago
      All the Apple chargers are compatible, and have been for quite a long time. They’ve had a standard USB-A port since at least 2004, and they now have a standard USB-C port. The only reason to get a new charger is if you need more power, but that’s exactly the same situation as with Android. Where did you get the idea that you had to get new chargers?
      - Ygg2 5y ago
        Isn't Apple on Lightning port? Still. All Androids work fine on USB-C and Apple is the outlier.
  - input_sh 5y ago
    Two drawers full of useless USB cables next to me imply so, and that's next to having 6 chargers and cables pretty much everywhere you can sit in my apartment. But I wouldn't call it significant, I would call it completely unnecessary. I'd really rather buy one when I need it than get one with every single gadget I buy, which is precisely what the EU is trying to achieve.
    - admax88qqq 5y ago
      Oh I'd totally rather just buy one as well, but let's be honest this is a first world problem around convenience, it's not going to put any significant dent in the global e-waste problem.
barrkel 5y ago
Do you have so short a memory about all the proprietary connectors we needed to suffer before?
- londons_explore 5y ago
  Sorry. I don't have time to reply to this comment because I need to find my Motorola charger. The thin long barrel jack, not the older thick short barrel jack one...

> Almost as if they've seen a shortcoming A shortcoming for _their_ goals. Their goals are at odds with what is best for us. It is a good thing the micro-b MoU did not have any teeth.

input_sh 5y ago

I can't speak on behalf of anyone but myself, but when that goal is less e-waste, their goal sure does align with mine, even if it may take me 20 extra minutes to charge my devices when something better than type C comes around. If I can charge my laptop with it, it's surely good enough for charging devices with a much smaller battery at least for the next decade or so.

admax88qqq 5y ago
Are chargers really a significant source of e-waste? E-waste is a direct consequence of technology progress. We're not still all using 486s. Technology advances, people want that new stuff. I would wager charging ports are insignificant.
- Ygg2 5y ago
  Hey on my Android, I'm happy to reuse my old chargers. It would be another thing if I was on Apple ecosystem.
  - kergonath 5y ago
    All the Apple chargers are compatible, and have been for quite a long time. They’ve had a standard USB-A port since at least 2004, and they now have a standard USB-C port. The only reason to get a new charger is if you need more power, but that’s exactly the same situation as with Android. Where did you get the idea that you had to get new chargers?
    - Ygg2 5y ago
      Isn't Apple on Lightning port? Still. All Androids work fine on USB-C and Apple is the outlier.
- input_sh 5y ago
  Two drawers full of useless USB cables next to me imply so, and that's next to having 6 chargers and cables pretty much everywhere you can sit in my apartment. But I wouldn't call it significant, I would call it completely unnecessary. I'd really rather buy one when I need it than get one with every single gadget I buy, which is precisely what the EU is trying to achieve.
  - admax88qqq 5y ago
    Oh I'd totally rather just buy one as well, but let's be honest this is a first world problem around convenience, it's not going to put any significant dent in the global e-waste problem.

barrkel 5y ago

Do you have so short a memory about all the proprietary connectors we needed to suffer before?

londons_explore 5y ago
Sorry. I don't have time to reply to this comment because I need to find my Motorola charger. The thin long barrel jack, not the older thick short barrel jack one...