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The solution to this is to help the US rise to the occasion, not complain about it on the internet.

by chrsig 5y ago

rootusrootus 5y ago
Many of us are trying to do exactly that. Can you explain how smugly proclaiming "see how we are better than you!?" furthers the conversation? It is not a constructive comment, it does not offer any meaningful insight to how we might improve the US. It's just divisive.
- chrsig 5y ago
  Showcasing a better system that the US could emulate is a great way to offer insight into how the US could improve. Interpreting it as "See how we are better than you!?" -- literally no one has said this. Interpreting it like that is just putting insecurity on display. Given the choice of two reactions: - "Geez, that system does sound better than what we've got going on here, we should consider adopting it" and - "I get it, you think you're better than us! stop being so divisive!" ...which do you think would lead to positive change? which do you think is a more fair interpretation of what the OP actually said?
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > Interpreting it like that is just putting insecurity on display. Of course, that's exactly it. Responding to every single thread about the US with "I don't understand why the US is this way, we do it better" isn't divisive at all. And anybody who suggests so is insecure. I prefer a constructive discussion. This ain't one.
    - ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
      It really is constructive, sharing how others have solved a particular problem. You didn't actually address the point of taking it as a negative being an artifact of insecurity, so let me add a second opinion to the same effect. It would be respectful of you to provide a meaningful (non-sarcastic) response.
wussboy 5y ago
Is it? We reject this logic in other areas (sexual assault comes to mind). Why is it valid here?
- chrsig 5y ago
  Can you expand? I don't understand what you're trying to communicate.

The solution to this is to help the US rise to the occasion, not complain about it on the internet.

by chrsig 5y ago

The solution to this is to help the US rise to the occasion, not complain about it on the internet.

Many of us are trying to do exactly that. Can you explain how smugly proclaiming "see how we are better than you!?" furthers the conversation? It is not a constructive comment, it does not offer any meaningful insight to how we might improve the US. It's just divisive.

chrsig 5y ago
Showcasing a better system that the US could emulate is a great way to offer insight into how the US could improve. Interpreting it as "See how we are better than you!?" -- literally no one has said this. Interpreting it like that is just putting insecurity on display. Given the choice of two reactions: - "Geez, that system does sound better than what we've got going on here, we should consider adopting it" and - "I get it, you think you're better than us! stop being so divisive!" ...which do you think would lead to positive change? which do you think is a more fair interpretation of what the OP actually said?
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > Interpreting it like that is just putting insecurity on display. Of course, that's exactly it. Responding to every single thread about the US with "I don't understand why the US is this way, we do it better" isn't divisive at all. And anybody who suggests so is insecure. I prefer a constructive discussion. This ain't one.
  - ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
    It really is constructive, sharing how others have solved a particular problem. You didn't actually address the point of taking it as a negative being an artifact of insecurity, so let me add a second opinion to the same effect. It would be respectful of you to provide a meaningful (non-sarcastic) response.

wussboy 5y ago

Is it? We reject this logic in other areas (sexual assault comes to mind). Why is it valid here?

chrsig 5y ago
Can you expand? I don't understand what you're trying to communicate.