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This seems like one of the best schemes I've heard here so far. Only part I disagree with is the "no multiplayer online games" - they are addictive, I've lost a

This seems like one of the best schemes I've heard here so far. Only part I disagree with is the "no multiplayer online games" - they are addictive, I've lost a lot of time to them in my life, so maybe you're right, but I want to believe moderation is better than abstinence.

yumraj 5y ago
no multiplayer online games are for two reason: 1) as you said, they can be addictive since they are designed that way. 2) I have no control over who they are playing with, the sort of language that is/will be used (though I'm a potty mouth so ..) and what it can/may lead to. I feel a lot of people prey on kids via these channels, though I may be wrong. It's just an additional layer, but overall kids haven't complained about it.
- aerovistae 5y ago
  Yeah #1 I can get behind but fwiw I think #2 isn't a real concern. In the past 20 years I've probably spent 8,000ish hours playing multiplayer games online, since I was about 11 or so, and never once in all that time had someone pull anything inappropriate. I do see plenty of foul language of course, but you get plenty of that from any direction you turn in the modern world anyway. And probably in the pre-modern world too. Back then I also joined voice chat with a lot of adult guys who were 10-20 years older than me when I was a teenager, and still all of them were just totally normal dudes who had a long day at work and were trying to relax with some Halo or something at the end of the night. Conversation was always 100% normal. Internet forums and social media outlets are probably worse in this respect, and especially for girls. That's where I hear most of the manipulation stories coming from, where some poor kid was tricked into sending illicit content that was then used against them, etc.
  - yumraj 5y ago
    > fwiw I think #2 isn't a real concern Thanks, good to know.. I guess I can relax a bit if my kids ever ask about a specific online games and pester me a bit :) I do kind of agree with the rest of your comment also...

yumraj 5y ago

no multiplayer online games are for two reason: 1) as you said, they can be addictive since they are designed that way. 2) I have no control over who they are playing with, the sort of language that is/will be used (though I'm a potty mouth so ..) and what it can/may lead to. I feel a lot of people prey on kids via these channels, though I may be wrong. It's just an additional layer, but overall kids haven't complained about it.

aerovistae 5y ago
Yeah #1 I can get behind but fwiw I think #2 isn't a real concern. In the past 20 years I've probably spent 8,000ish hours playing multiplayer games online, since I was about 11 or so, and never once in all that time had someone pull anything inappropriate. I do see plenty of foul language of course, but you get plenty of that from any direction you turn in the modern world anyway. And probably in the pre-modern world too. Back then I also joined voice chat with a lot of adult guys who were 10-20 years older than me when I was a teenager, and still all of them were just totally normal dudes who had a long day at work and were trying to relax with some Halo or something at the end of the night. Conversation was always 100% normal. Internet forums and social media outlets are probably worse in this respect, and especially for girls. That's where I hear most of the manipulation stories coming from, where some poor kid was tricked into sending illicit content that was then used against them, etc.
- yumraj 5y ago
  > fwiw I think #2 isn't a real concern Thanks, good to know.. I guess I can relax a bit if my kids ever ask about a specific online games and pester me a bit :) I do kind of agree with the rest of your comment also...