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I'm starting to hate these articles because they never, ever contain the information needed to deduct anything. - Who got Covid (vaccinated or not?)? - How si

by disgu 5y ago

I'm starting to hate these articles because they never, ever contain the information needed to deduct anything. - Who got Covid (vaccinated or not?)? - How sick are they (did they just test positive, are they in they hospital, ICU)? Starting to feel like these essential questions are completely ignored on purpose. Well, just like the last dozen times an article like this has popped up, this "statistic" doesn't contain enough information to be relevant at all. It's just click bait crap.

degenerate 5y ago
clicks, clicks, clicks. Nothing else matters to them.
disambiguation 5y ago
Agreed we need more data and less fear mongering headlines. I don't know much about Ireland's data w.r.t this article, but UK is similar in a lot of ways and provides an abundance of interesting reports. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... > Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 98.1% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 19.7% that have antibodies from infection alone. Over 97% of adults aged 17 or older have antibodies from either infection or vaccination. pages 13 and onward have nice tabular data on hospitalization, emergency care, and death which have comparisons in terms of Rates among persons vaccinated with 2 doses (per 100,000) and Rates among persons not vaccinated (per 100,000).
- Macha 5y ago
  From the Irish covid tracker app: It doesn't have a county level breakdown for hospitalisations and ICU (since counties are too small for every one to have their own hospitals and definitely most don't have their own ICU). Waterford does have both, but I've been unable to find the figures for either the public or private hospital in the city. Nationwide covid hospital cases: 634 Nationwide ICU cases: 119 Also this site has a more granular breakdown on case numbers: https://opendata-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/27d401c9ae084097bb1f3a69b69462a1_0/explore?location=53.193454%2C-8.329624%2C7.00&showTable=true https://opendata-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/27d401c9ae0...
- sime2009 5y ago
  Figures based on blood donors were also circulating in the Netherlands earlier this year. But you have to be very careful what you conclude from blood donors because they are not a good representation of the general population. They tended to be healthier in general, have higher rates of vaccination, and also medical personnel are over-represented.

by disgu 5y ago

degenerate 5y ago

clicks, clicks, clicks. Nothing else matters to them.

disambiguation 5y ago

Agreed we need more data and less fear mongering headlines. I don't know much about Ireland's data w.r.t this article, but UK is similar in a lot of ways and provides an abundance of interesting reports. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... > Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 98.1% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 19.7% that have antibodies from infection alone. Over 97% of adults aged 17 or older have antibodies from either infection or vaccination. pages 13 and onward have nice tabular data on hospitalization, emergency care, and death which have comparisons in terms of Rates among persons vaccinated with 2 doses (per 100,000) and Rates among persons not vaccinated (per 100,000).

Macha 5y ago
From the Irish covid tracker app: It doesn't have a county level breakdown for hospitalisations and ICU (since counties are too small for every one to have their own hospitals and definitely most don't have their own ICU). Waterford does have both, but I've been unable to find the figures for either the public or private hospital in the city. Nationwide covid hospital cases: 634 Nationwide ICU cases: 119 Also this site has a more granular breakdown on case numbers: https://opendata-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/27d401c9ae084097bb1f3a69b69462a1_0/explore?location=53.193454%2C-8.329624%2C7.00&showTable=true https://opendata-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/27d401c9ae0...
sime2009 5y ago
Figures based on blood donors were also circulating in the Netherlands earlier this year. But you have to be very careful what you conclude from blood donors because they are not a good representation of the general population. They tended to be healthier in general, have higher rates of vaccination, and also medical personnel are over-represented.