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What would you define the events on that day as?
by bairrd 5y ago
What would you define the events on that day as?
- tomp 5y ago"riot", or, as leftwing media calls it, "mostly peaceful protest"
- chrisco255 5y agoIt was a mostly peaceful protest.
- Ekaros 5y agoLot more peaceful than some last year... Or seemingly this year...
- ilikecakeandpie 5y agoFive people died and a cop was murdered
- wassenaar10 5y agoNobody was killed by any of the rioters.
- tomp 5y agoFrom Wikipedia: > Five people died either shortly before, during, or following the event: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three succumbed to natural causes Please cite your sources, in particularly for the "a cop was murdered", or please stop spreading lies and misinformation.
- ComputerGuru 5y agoSicknick died of a stroke the next day, apparently of natural causes. There are claims (originally presented by all media channels as foregone conclusions) that he was beat in the head with an extinguisher the day before, but the medical examiner’s report doesn’t corroborate that. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-exting... Edit: used a hopefully unbiased source that includes criticism of both the right- and left-leaning media’s coverage.
- drcongo 5y agoFascist cosplay?
- happytoexplain 5y agoWhen people have an ideology that has some kind of immorality as one of its fundamentals (like most far-edges political ideologies do), and they attempt to manifest that ideology, calling it "cosplay" can either be a derogatory term (implying "they failed"), or it can be a defensive term (implying "they're just trolling, they don't really feel that way") to draw attention away from the immorality. That ambiguity has made the term less useful.
- drcongo 5y agoI just meant that it was a bunch of fascists playing at what that really means, but yeah, I agree with your point.
- ComputerGuru 5y agoWithout access to any privileged information, I would call it a protest that turned (or was instigated to turn, if you prefer to phrase it that way) into a mob, and there’s never any telling what could happen after that. Read Lord of the Flies - mobs do crazy things.
- missinfo 5y agoJust look at the summer of 2020. There were many many examples of protests that turned into riots. Some included federal buildings too. Dozens of people were killed and billions of dollars in damages. It's obvious partisanship to frame these events so differently.
- germinalphrase 5y agoFormer president Bush called the people involved “insurrectionists”. President Trumps chosen CIA director - someone with decidedly privileged information - said “we are on the way to a right wing coup”. Whether you find such a perspective compelling, you would probably be wise to open yourself to the possibility that the events of January 6th is more than mere mob behavior.
- ComputerGuru 5y agoI’m open (unpartisan but the names you listed would make me apt to distrust what they had to say) and can believe insurrectionists were behind the instigation of the mob. I also like to think for myself and also understand that randos showing up to protest can end up mobbing without having come with a specific agenda (all it takes is someone to throw the first punch, break the first window, whatever - and sure, that someone instigating the crowd (or setting someone else up to do it for them) might have been there with a very clear agenda and should be labeled as an insurrectionist).
- odonnellryan 5y agoWhat were they there to protest?
- newacc9 5y agoA protest, or maybe a field trip. They had signs, not weapons. The FBI and capitol police waved the protesters into the building and held the doors open for them -- its on video. Now all the participants are suffering in a gulag without representation, they are literally begging to be transferred to gitmo.