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Edit: I probably wrote this comment to aggresively, which is ironic given that that is what I am arguing against. My apologies. When you see someone you disagr

by rocqua 5y ago

Edit: I probably wrote this comment to aggresively, which is ironic given that that is what I am arguing against. My apologies. When you see someone you disagree with convinced by an argument, I think that should be an occasion for celebration and joy! People changing their minds to what you believe to be true is the only way to get change. It needs to be encouraged and people who manage to do this need recognition. Changing your mind in polarized situations is hard! People who manage it did something impressive. Heck, even people who are willing to listen to the other side deserve recognition. You saw someone who changed their mind, and you chastised them for not having changed their mind earlier, and for having been wrong before. That is rather counter-productive. Instead, be happy with the conversion. If you want more interaction, ask them why they believed the other thing before. Less importantly, ask them what changed their mind.

jacquesm 5y ago
I'm happy with their conversion but realize that the reason why they became converted is actually false: they now claim they are convinced by facts they very obviously still do not understand. Besides, probably the only reason they allowed themselves to be convinced is because of the fig leaf handed by the article in being able to claim to 'have been right all along'. > Less importantly, ask them what changed their mind. They wrote about that in this thread, and it proves that they do not understand the basic argument made, at all. As converts go, it's a pretty sad case. The author of this article did a fantastic job, but all it has done for me is to show how hard it is for people to digest information and to draw meaningful conclusions from it. On another note: this is why I'm not particularly hopeful about humanity getting their act together with respect to climate change.

by rocqua 5y ago

jacquesm 5y ago

I'm happy with their conversion but realize that the reason why they became converted is actually false: they now claim they are convinced by facts they very obviously still do not understand. Besides, probably the only reason they allowed themselves to be convinced is because of the fig leaf handed by the article in being able to claim to 'have been right all along'. > Less importantly, ask them what changed their mind. They wrote about that in this thread, and it proves that they do not understand the basic argument made, at all. As converts go, it's a pretty sad case. The author of this article did a fantastic job, but all it has done for me is to show how hard it is for people to digest information and to draw meaningful conclusions from it. On another note: this is why I'm not particularly hopeful about humanity getting their act together with respect to climate change.