> Lack of credentials doesn't mean lack of knowledge, but their presence is at least some signal. Why not just hear what I say on the merits? Think about it on

> Lack of credentials doesn't mean lack of knowledge, but their presence is at least some signal. Why not just hear what I say on the merits? Think about it on your own? >the culture is rooted in misery and suffering. Misery and suffering are NOT a diagnosis for clinical depression. Psychologists take culture into account when diagnosing depression. > And the consensus is universal: depression lies. No, depression tells the truths no on wants to hear. The truth is that is ok to be worthless. Do you get that? That is what the therapists I had taught me. And it relieves the pressure of my mood disorder. I have dismantled the cultural imagined hierarchy of worth that existed in my head. >That pain is not why people with depression suffer. I would say pain is the only reason why anyone suffers. >Externalizing depression as an entity that's not speaking truthfully is a way to start pulling yourself out of it. Please, I have tried it, it does not last. Sadnees is the ego fighting against the truth of our worthlessness. Once you accept that you are worthless and are ok with it, what is there to be sad about? I'll stop there because this is what the problem is with the whole thread. No one understands the clinical definition of depression and they keep conflating sadness with depression. And thanks for your thoughts.