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> How much money do they lose because of the reputation damage and increased regulator attention because of it? Unfortunately I doubt they lose very much at al
by skohan 5y ago
> How much money do they lose because of the reputation damage and increased regulator attention because of it?
Unfortunately I doubt they lose very much at all based on a move like this. To sophisticated users this is a huge red-flag, but I would imagine a vast majority of computer users barely know what browser they use.
Probably they use edge by default until they're cajoled into installing Chrome as their default browser by their google services, and then they're confused why certain things from chrome don't work when they've been led to a website from the search bar.
That's an absolutely atrocious result from a UX point of view. And it really makes you wonder about the incentive structures in the industry to contemplate the collective frustration suffered by hundreds of millions or billions of users just so some PO's can get a raise for hitting their KPI targets this or that quarter.
- YetAnotherNick 5y agoThis is clearly not true. Firefox has higher desktop browser usage than edge[1]. > they're cajoled into installing Chrome as their default browser by their google services. And do you really think 80% of the destop users clicked to install chrome because they click anything on the net? I thought they removed the ad for chrome in google services. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
- ndiddy 5y ago> I thought they removed the ad for chrome in google services. They certainly haven’t, here’s what going to google.com looks like in Safari: https://files.catbox.moe/ew6idm.png https://files.catbox.moe/ew6idm.png
- YetAnotherNick 5y agoI am talking about desktop. Never seen chrome ad in mac safari, even in private browsing.
- speedgoose 5y agoYou get spammed by Google a lot if you use edge on desktop.
- skohan 5y agoHow does that graph disprove my supposition? I would assume Firefox's share is almost completely Linux users and people on the more sophisticated end who choose Firefox explicitly. The pattern you see there would still hold in the scenario I describe so long as Chrome is quite effective at getting people to install chrome through things like banners and email CTA's.
- YetAnotherNick 5y agoSo what that they are linux users? I am sure you would consider Linux users as at least partially caring about the browser they use. I can't imagine any linux user to use Edge even if it was available on Linux. The point is more user care about the browser they user than you think.
- skohan 5y agoWell Firefox is largely the default on Linux, so it wouldn't represent a proactive choice. And linux users are probably more likely to fall into the category of sophisticated user than the general population. I don't see any evidence in what you've presented that the average computer user cares at all about what browser they're using beyond "I will click until the annoying notifications go away".
- penteract 5y ago> Firefox has higher desktop browser usage than edge I don't think the Wikipedia page supports this definitively. Under summary tables [1], for October 2021, 2 out of 4 sources put Edge ahead of Firefox for desktop browsers (by more than the ones that put Firefox ahead of Edge). In older data, Edge+IE seems to beat Firefox. Separately, Firefox being more used than Edge would not contradict most people using Edge briefly until they install Chrome. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Summary_tables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Su...