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Apparently drinking soda can lead to those problems. Could it be that tea and coffee drinkers in general drink less soda? Was that controlled for? Alternativ

Apparently drinking soda can lead to those problems. Could it be that tea and coffee drinkers in general drink less soda? Was that controlled for? Alternatively maybe the soda studies are just proxies for tea and coffee.

iamstupidsimple 5y ago
> Was that controlled for? Very little can be controlled for in studies like this. There are just too many factors to slice on, and before long you're just reading into noise.
- xattt 5y ago
  I think studies like this tend to overlook selection bias. What is typically omitted is that there is some degree of “tolerance” that’s needed to consume moderately caffeinated beverages. Individuals might avoid these drinks if they feel like they get negative effects (ie anxiety, palpitations, headaches) from them. I know this barely scratches the surface of the uncontrolled factors, but I wanted to throw this point out there.
hajile 5y ago
I'd love to see stats for caffeine-free people in a study like this. It seems like anybody can tell you that Soda is worse for you than tea/coffee (possible exception of sweet tea).
hinkley 5y ago
Also, are they the same mechanism? We know that staying mentally active can delay dementia symptoms for decades. Could it be that people who do mentally taxing work for a living drink more tea and coffee per capita, especially as they approach a certain age, so that coffee and dementia are negatively correlated but not causal?
ac29 5y ago
"estimate the associations between coffee/tea consumption and incident stroke and dementia, adjusting for [...], consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages"
stronglikedan 5y ago
Anecdotal, but I drink water, coffee, and tea almost exclusively. I maybe have one soda a month, and it's typically one of those 8oz jobbies, and typically with pizza, and typically only because it goes so well with pizza.

iamstupidsimple 5y ago

> Was that controlled for? Very little can be controlled for in studies like this. There are just too many factors to slice on, and before long you're just reading into noise.

xattt 5y ago
I think studies like this tend to overlook selection bias. What is typically omitted is that there is some degree of “tolerance” that’s needed to consume moderately caffeinated beverages. Individuals might avoid these drinks if they feel like they get negative effects (ie anxiety, palpitations, headaches) from them. I know this barely scratches the surface of the uncontrolled factors, but I wanted to throw this point out there.

hajile 5y ago

I'd love to see stats for caffeine-free people in a study like this. It seems like anybody can tell you that Soda is worse for you than tea/coffee (possible exception of sweet tea).

hinkley 5y ago

Also, are they the same mechanism? We know that staying mentally active can delay dementia symptoms for decades. Could it be that people who do mentally taxing work for a living drink more tea and coffee per capita, especially as they approach a certain age, so that coffee and dementia are negatively correlated but not causal?

ac29 5y ago

"estimate the associations between coffee/tea consumption and incident stroke and dementia, adjusting for [...], consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages"

stronglikedan 5y ago

Anecdotal, but I drink water, coffee, and tea almost exclusively. I maybe have one soda a month, and it's typically one of those 8oz jobbies, and typically with pizza, and typically only because it goes so well with pizza.