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I’m not an engineer but I am an architect and I have worked closely with engineers on skyscrapers. Drilling all the way down to the bedrock is risky. When you d
by ArchitectAnon 5y ago
I’m not an engineer but I am an architect and I have worked closely with engineers on skyscrapers. Drilling all the way down to the bedrock is risky. When you drill a deep pile you need to use bentonite slurry to stop the pile collapsing in on itself, the pile auger is withdrawn and then a long pipe is used to introduce concrete from the bottom of the the pile which should displace the slurry out of the top because it is less dense than the concrete. However, this process doesn’t always work and you get bentonite inclusions in the concrete which are found when the pile is tested ultrasonically afterwards. I don’t remember the stats but lets say it’s something like 1 in 10 piles fail the test when you drill to 50m deep bedrock through clay. You then have to drill two more either side of the original pile and bridge over the defective pile but these each have the same risk of inclusions, so there’s an increased risk the workaround will fail. As you can imagine this can get pretty complicated and expensive quickly. As an architect I was involved because we needed to have a backup plan for how the basement would be reorganised if there were a lot of piling failures requiring extra bridging structures.
- montag 5y agoVery interesting. Thanks for sharing. You make a good point that it’s not so simple as just drilling to bedrock.
- pas 5y agoIt's not that complicated though. There's nothing stopping the builders to get the bad column out and try it again. And again. Yes it's expensive as fuck, but this is still the foundation we're talking about. This (and the load bearing core) is where cost must come after safety. Yes, naturally safety needs to be quantified and that just gets us back to cost again in a sense, but that's why there's a minimal safety codified (in the building code). It's all about cost. There are many ways to get those nice columns in the ground, it's possible to drill them and put annular rings on top of each other (just like with regular wells) then fill it with concrete. More expensive than the bentonite slurry method? Sure, but it's still simple.