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> We found that drinking coffee and tea separately or in combination were associated with lower risk of stroke and dementia. Intake of coffee alone or in combin

> We found that drinking coffee and tea separately or in combination were associated with lower risk of stroke and dementia. Intake of coffee alone or in combination with tea was associated with lower risk of poststroke dementia. Beyond this, there are so many other health benefits to reasonable coffee/tea drinking. It's one of the few addictions that probably ends up being good for you.

popotamonga 5y ago
But which tea? There are thousands cant believe they are all the same.
- mschild 5y ago
  Going by statistics, I'd arguee black, herbal, and green, with black tea leading with quite a margin. [0] [0] https://brandongaille.com/20-uk-tea-industry-statistics-and-trends/ https://brandongaille.com/20-uk-tea-industry-statistics-and-...
  - dustintrex 5y ago
    In the UK, perhaps. Much of the world prefers green.
    - mschild 5y ago
      Sure, but this study is based on UK data.
    - puszczyk 5y ago
      Black tea applies to Europe as a whole as far as I can tell. Which parts of the world prefer green? Chinese and some Asian restaurants here (Poland) feature green tea quite prominently, but that’s the limit of my experience.
      - dustintrex 5y ago
        Green tea is predominant in China, Japan and Korea, as well as much of Southeast and Central Asia. Moroccan tea is usually green as well.
- mirekrusin 5y ago
  Coffee + L-Theanin.
  - gchokov 5y ago
    This is the way.
    - Kiro 5y ago
      Why?
      - mirekrusin 5y ago
        Tea has more caffeine than coffee but it has l-theanin which calms down its effect, by combining l-theanin (green tea extract) with coffee you can enjoy it without side effects no abnormal heart rhythm, no anxiety-like feelings etc.
- estaseuropano 5y ago
  There is a single tea plant, grown in different regions, harvested at different times, and processed in different ways to white, black, green, matcha and pu err tea. I would presume there is no massive difference from the health side as they are largely the same. If in doubt get an organic green tea as green tea best preserves vitamines. Then there are infusions of fruits, leaves, etc which are not strictly tea. And there are the above teas with other plants or oils mixed in (e.g. jasmine flower, bergamotte, ...). As long as you don't add much sugar I doubt these have much different impact unless these are plants with known effects of their own (ginseng, ginko, lemongrass, ...).
- rnestler 5y ago
  While there are thousands of "herbal teas", just "tea" refers to beverages made with the Camellia sinensis plant. See https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea
  - adrianN 5y ago
    There are also lots of different cultivars of that plant and different ways of treating the leaves. Since they all taste different, one would have to assume that the chemical cocktail the brew contains is also markedly different. Whether or not that has an influence on the purported health benefits is unclear.
    - dehrmann 5y ago
      I suspect the maturity and processing of the leaves have more of an effect than the cultivar. If this effect is being observed in both coffee and tea, my guesses would be it's either caffeine, something with the roasting, possibly fermentation (but I'm not sure if all tea is fermented), something with fluid consumption, or something with the mental ritual of drinking mild stimulants.
1penny42cents 5y ago
>It's one of the few addictions that probably ends up being good for you I thought that for a long time, until I realized that afternoon caffeine was correlated with my inability to fall asleep at night. Cutting coffee (even dark chocolate) after lunch has greatly improved my sleep quality. Still love it in the mornings though.
- sva_ 5y ago
  I'd usually aim for drinking the first coffee/tea about 1-2 hours after waking (it is important to wake up by circadian rhythms to get the best effect) and drink the last beverage around 2pm, or at latest 3pm.
- MrYellowP 5y ago
  > until I realized that afternoon caffeine was correlated with my inability to fall asleep at night. That sounds like it wasn't obvious to you from the start. You see me flabbergasted. How is that even possible?
  - 1penny42cents 5y ago
    Haha.. Yes it's obvious in hindsight. I think a few factors played into it. First was an underestimation of the half life of caffeine. It stays in your system for a while, and stacks when you have multiple throughout the day. Another was my personal sensitivity to caffeine with regards to sleep. I know many people who can't drink coffee at all and others who can drink it as a digestif. I'm somewhere in the middle. The last is being embedded in a coffee-drinking culture, without personal awareness of the above two points. So I would drink it later than I should with people who didn't (or didn't know they) have a problem drinking it at that time.

popotamonga 5y ago

But which tea? There are thousands cant believe they are all the same.

mschild 5y ago
Going by statistics, I'd arguee black, herbal, and green, with black tea leading with quite a margin. [0] [0] https://brandongaille.com/20-uk-tea-industry-statistics-and-trends/ https://brandongaille.com/20-uk-tea-industry-statistics-and-...
- dustintrex 5y ago
  In the UK, perhaps. Much of the world prefers green.
  - mschild 5y ago
    Sure, but this study is based on UK data.
  - puszczyk 5y ago
    Black tea applies to Europe as a whole as far as I can tell. Which parts of the world prefer green? Chinese and some Asian restaurants here (Poland) feature green tea quite prominently, but that’s the limit of my experience.
    - dustintrex 5y ago
      Green tea is predominant in China, Japan and Korea, as well as much of Southeast and Central Asia. Moroccan tea is usually green as well.
mirekrusin 5y ago
Coffee + L-Theanin.
- gchokov 5y ago
  This is the way.
  - Kiro 5y ago
    Why?
    - mirekrusin 5y ago
      Tea has more caffeine than coffee but it has l-theanin which calms down its effect, by combining l-theanin (green tea extract) with coffee you can enjoy it without side effects no abnormal heart rhythm, no anxiety-like feelings etc.
estaseuropano 5y ago
There is a single tea plant, grown in different regions, harvested at different times, and processed in different ways to white, black, green, matcha and pu err tea. I would presume there is no massive difference from the health side as they are largely the same. If in doubt get an organic green tea as green tea best preserves vitamines. Then there are infusions of fruits, leaves, etc which are not strictly tea. And there are the above teas with other plants or oils mixed in (e.g. jasmine flower, bergamotte, ...). As long as you don't add much sugar I doubt these have much different impact unless these are plants with known effects of their own (ginseng, ginko, lemongrass, ...).
rnestler 5y ago
While there are thousands of "herbal teas", just "tea" refers to beverages made with the Camellia sinensis plant. See https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea
- adrianN 5y ago
  There are also lots of different cultivars of that plant and different ways of treating the leaves. Since they all taste different, one would have to assume that the chemical cocktail the brew contains is also markedly different. Whether or not that has an influence on the purported health benefits is unclear.
  - dehrmann 5y ago
    I suspect the maturity and processing of the leaves have more of an effect than the cultivar. If this effect is being observed in both coffee and tea, my guesses would be it's either caffeine, something with the roasting, possibly fermentation (but I'm not sure if all tea is fermented), something with fluid consumption, or something with the mental ritual of drinking mild stimulants.

1penny42cents 5y ago

>It's one of the few addictions that probably ends up being good for you I thought that for a long time, until I realized that afternoon caffeine was correlated with my inability to fall asleep at night. Cutting coffee (even dark chocolate) after lunch has greatly improved my sleep quality. Still love it in the mornings though.

sva_ 5y ago
I'd usually aim for drinking the first coffee/tea about 1-2 hours after waking (it is important to wake up by circadian rhythms to get the best effect) and drink the last beverage around 2pm, or at latest 3pm.
MrYellowP 5y ago
> until I realized that afternoon caffeine was correlated with my inability to fall asleep at night. That sounds like it wasn't obvious to you from the start. You see me flabbergasted. How is that even possible?
- 1penny42cents 5y ago
  Haha.. Yes it's obvious in hindsight. I think a few factors played into it. First was an underestimation of the half life of caffeine. It stays in your system for a while, and stacks when you have multiple throughout the day. Another was my personal sensitivity to caffeine with regards to sleep. I know many people who can't drink coffee at all and others who can drink it as a digestif. I'm somewhere in the middle. The last is being embedded in a coffee-drinking culture, without personal awareness of the above two points. So I would drink it later than I should with people who didn't (or didn't know they) have a problem drinking it at that time.