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Cloud Foundry Adds PHP and Python

30 points by taylorbuley 15y ago

rgarcia 15y ago
This blog post is surprisingly lacking in details. Here's some info I dug up on the Python/PHP support: http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20382447-python-support-in-cloud-foundry http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20382447-python-supp... http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20386327-php-support-in-cloud-foundry http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20386327-php-support... Personally I'd like to see one of these PaaSs support Tornado. I think DotCloud has been promising it for a while...
- cardmagic 15y ago
  The nice thing about Open Source PaaS is that you can scratch your own itches, add a Tornado pull request and pretty soon it could be running on AppFog.com or CloudFoundry.com
  - shykes 15y ago
    Good news! You can now scratch your own itch on dotCloud. We've added support for custom builds, which means you can run Tornado, Thin and any other asynchronous web server you want. We're planning a blog post about it the coming days.
    - cardmagic 15y ago
      Except if you scratch your itch on dotCloud, you can't run it on your own laptop like you can with Cloud Foundry Micro or on other services that might have a better interface like AppFog. That's the problem with contributing to a closed source project.
      - shykes 15y ago
        Lucas, I think you're being unfair to the dotCloud community. If I scratch my itch on dotCloud and share a cool Wordpress [1] or Thin [2] stack, how is that not open? [1] https://github.com/qpleple/wordpress-on-dotcloud https://github.com/qpleple/wordpress-on-dotcloud [2] https://github.com/jpetazzo/thin https://github.com/jpetazzo/thin At the same time you mention in your blog: "Appfog has secret sauce that we did not contribute to the open source project, ways to optimize PHP and the experience around PHP". For the sake of openness, I encourage you to share your secret PHP sauce as a custom dotCloud build. There's a whole community of hackers doing the same.
        cardmagic 15y ago
        It is not open because it is not portable. You can't take wordpress-on-dotcloud and deploy it on any other architecture or platform outside of dotCloud.
- jeffh 15y ago
  ActiveState's Stackato already has Tornado support (we have a demo of Tornado Chat with MongoDB), amongst other features that are not yet in Cloud Foundry (Perl, run and db migration, ...). More about those at http://www.activestate.com/blog/2011/08/python-cloud-foundry-stackato-vsphere http://www.activestate.com/blog/2011/08/python-cloud-foundry....
  - Pythondj 15y ago
    Stackato is in restricted beta right now. Here are some invite codes for anyone who'd like to try it out: AS-HN-ZJLH2P0IM0 AS-HN-6ZU3V9B36T AS-HN-FDQQIGL19N AS-HN-SDNQWQ3QTZ AS-HN-RDRMNWQKB6 AS-HN-V4HT1LQURL AS-HN-PUBZEVU2Q9 AS-HN-HQGDL45WKH AS-HN-AR61S65DYQ AS-HN-NRRQTIE9KN Go to http://tinyurl.com/stackatoinvite http://tinyurl.com/stackatoinvite to redeem your code. They're one-time use only, so if one doesn't work for you, try another one. If you miss out, you can request an invite code here: http:///www.activestate.com/cloud http:///www.activestate.com/cloud
    - rgarcia 15y ago
      This is why I love HN. Thanks!
cardmagic 15y ago
Here is the PHP pull request: https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/105 https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/105 And the Python pull request: https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/57 https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/57
gte910h 15y ago
I'm a little fuzzy on the exact story of cloudfoundry. It may just be lack of business level pricing, but I find the options they present confusing, not illuminating. I have clients who are scared off of possible lock in with stuff like GAE, but would love something that seems quite close to a cloud foundry based backend, I'm just not 100% on what they do provide, and how they make their money.
- cardmagic 15y ago
  That is where AppFog steps in and makes things clear - http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/08/25/appfog-reveals-cloud-foundry-integration-for-multi-language-support/ http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/08/25/appfog-reveals-cloud-found...
  - gte910h 15y ago
    I understand what AppFog does. I don't understand what cloud foundry does. Are they the same people? I get what the tech does. I don't get what the support, reliability, chance to be in here 5 years, etc stories are.
- gte910h 15y ago
  Oh that's it: I just finally figured out that this is a VMWare owned project, not a startup. Duh
  - wattersjames 15y ago
    Yes it is, and we aren't going away any time soon. :) We'll more than be here in five years.
    - gte910h 15y ago
      It's not very transparent that's where the money comes from. It's featured on your web page, but took me awhile to understand this was a way for you to sell more virtualization projects to people.

30 points by taylorbuley 15y ago

This blog post is surprisingly lacking in details. Here's some info I dug up on the Python/PHP support: http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20382447-python-support-in-cloud-foundry http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20382447-python-supp... http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20386327-php-support-in-cloud-foundry http://support.cloudfoundry.com/entries/20386327-php-support... Personally I'd like to see one of these PaaSs support Tornado. I think DotCloud has been promising it for a while...

cardmagic 15y ago
The nice thing about Open Source PaaS is that you can scratch your own itches, add a Tornado pull request and pretty soon it could be running on AppFog.com or CloudFoundry.com
- shykes 15y ago
  Good news! You can now scratch your own itch on dotCloud. We've added support for custom builds, which means you can run Tornado, Thin and any other asynchronous web server you want. We're planning a blog post about it the coming days.
  - cardmagic 15y ago
    Except if you scratch your itch on dotCloud, you can't run it on your own laptop like you can with Cloud Foundry Micro or on other services that might have a better interface like AppFog. That's the problem with contributing to a closed source project.
    - shykes 15y ago
      Lucas, I think you're being unfair to the dotCloud community. If I scratch my itch on dotCloud and share a cool Wordpress [1] or Thin [2] stack, how is that not open? [1] https://github.com/qpleple/wordpress-on-dotcloud https://github.com/qpleple/wordpress-on-dotcloud [2] https://github.com/jpetazzo/thin https://github.com/jpetazzo/thin At the same time you mention in your blog: "Appfog has secret sauce that we did not contribute to the open source project, ways to optimize PHP and the experience around PHP". For the sake of openness, I encourage you to share your secret PHP sauce as a custom dotCloud build. There's a whole community of hackers doing the same.
      - cardmagic 15y ago
        It is not open because it is not portable. You can't take wordpress-on-dotcloud and deploy it on any other architecture or platform outside of dotCloud.
jeffh 15y ago
ActiveState's Stackato already has Tornado support (we have a demo of Tornado Chat with MongoDB), amongst other features that are not yet in Cloud Foundry (Perl, run and db migration, ...). More about those at http://www.activestate.com/blog/2011/08/python-cloud-foundry-stackato-vsphere http://www.activestate.com/blog/2011/08/python-cloud-foundry....
- Pythondj 15y ago
  Stackato is in restricted beta right now. Here are some invite codes for anyone who'd like to try it out: AS-HN-ZJLH2P0IM0 AS-HN-6ZU3V9B36T AS-HN-FDQQIGL19N AS-HN-SDNQWQ3QTZ AS-HN-RDRMNWQKB6 AS-HN-V4HT1LQURL AS-HN-PUBZEVU2Q9 AS-HN-HQGDL45WKH AS-HN-AR61S65DYQ AS-HN-NRRQTIE9KN Go to http://tinyurl.com/stackatoinvite http://tinyurl.com/stackatoinvite to redeem your code. They're one-time use only, so if one doesn't work for you, try another one. If you miss out, you can request an invite code here: http:///www.activestate.com/cloud http:///www.activestate.com/cloud
  - rgarcia 15y ago
    This is why I love HN. Thanks!

cardmagic 15y ago

Here is the PHP pull request: https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/105 https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/105 And the Python pull request: https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/57 https://github.com/cloudfoundry/vcap/pull/57

gte910h 15y ago

I'm a little fuzzy on the exact story of cloudfoundry. It may just be lack of business level pricing, but I find the options they present confusing, not illuminating. I have clients who are scared off of possible lock in with stuff like GAE, but would love something that seems quite close to a cloud foundry based backend, I'm just not 100% on what they do provide, and how they make their money.

cardmagic 15y ago
That is where AppFog steps in and makes things clear - http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/08/25/appfog-reveals-cloud-foundry-integration-for-multi-language-support/ http://blog.phpfog.com/2011/08/25/appfog-reveals-cloud-found...
- gte910h 15y ago
  I understand what AppFog does. I don't understand what cloud foundry does. Are they the same people? I get what the tech does. I don't get what the support, reliability, chance to be in here 5 years, etc stories are.
gte910h 15y ago
Oh that's it: I just finally figured out that this is a VMWare owned project, not a startup. Duh
- wattersjames 15y ago
  Yes it is, and we aren't going away any time soon. :) We'll more than be here in five years.
  - gte910h 15y ago
    It's not very transparent that's where the money comes from. It's featured on your web page, but took me awhile to understand this was a way for you to sell more virtualization projects to people.