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It's funny how both sides in any argument or disagreement think one side is belittling the other by doing nothing more than assuming the other side doesn't unde

by jettero 15y ago

It's funny how both sides in any argument or disagreement think one side is belittling the other by doing nothing more than assuming the other side doesn't understand something or another (this includes you just now btw). Certes pointing out ad hominem counts as ad hominem every single time too.

Mithaldu 15y ago
> this includes you just now Most certainly not. The factual divide is one issue and his politeness another. The posts of jrockway are laced with flat out insults that are unnecessary and have nothing to do with any assumptions about understanding. Let me point one out: > Your post [...] makes people wish your computer would punch you in the face. (Omitted part not being an insult.)
- jettero 15y ago
  Surely there was insult and ad hominem in his post (not arguing the fact), but I believe it was in reply to the insult and ad homimen from the post he was replying to. Calling someone an internet toughman counts as ad hominem just as much as calling someone computerfacepunch. Although, the more I think about it, your point was probably: no need to stoop to the same level.
  - Mithaldu 15y ago
    Consider that it was preceded by: > they forget that they have a brain > where -O3'd code magically executes as though the compiler didn't do any optimizations on it. > And finally, if you use correct grammar in your comments These have varying degrees of subtlety, but they are definitely aimed digs. There was a definite precedent that warranted the toughman comment and made it seem like an accurate description to me even when i was actively trying to be nice. Edit: I understand your point and think about it fairly often, i.e. when programmers in one language attack another and the attacked group goes on to point out how they refrain from attacks. I just do not think i have any ash to sprinkle on my shoulder in this case.
    - jrockway 15y ago
      It's not a dig. I do think you're dumb if you don't like gdb. Naturally, my opinion comes out in my writing, which I think is my Creative License. You should realize that anything you read is biased. You should read the post for content, mix it with its credibility, and then reach a decision. In the end, I think that my experience programming adds more credibility than my love for snide comments subtracts. That doesn't make me a toughguy, that makes my writing interesting to read.
      - Mithaldu 15y ago
        Let me put it like this: mst you are not.

by jettero 15y ago

Mithaldu 15y ago

> this includes you just now Most certainly not. The factual divide is one issue and his politeness another. The posts of jrockway are laced with flat out insults that are unnecessary and have nothing to do with any assumptions about understanding. Let me point one out: > Your post [...] makes people wish your computer would punch you in the face. (Omitted part not being an insult.)

jettero 15y ago
Surely there was insult and ad hominem in his post (not arguing the fact), but I believe it was in reply to the insult and ad homimen from the post he was replying to. Calling someone an internet toughman counts as ad hominem just as much as calling someone computerfacepunch. Although, the more I think about it, your point was probably: no need to stoop to the same level.
- Mithaldu 15y ago
  Consider that it was preceded by: > they forget that they have a brain > where -O3'd code magically executes as though the compiler didn't do any optimizations on it. > And finally, if you use correct grammar in your comments These have varying degrees of subtlety, but they are definitely aimed digs. There was a definite precedent that warranted the toughman comment and made it seem like an accurate description to me even when i was actively trying to be nice. Edit: I understand your point and think about it fairly often, i.e. when programmers in one language attack another and the attacked group goes on to point out how they refrain from attacks. I just do not think i have any ash to sprinkle on my shoulder in this case.
  - jrockway 15y ago
    It's not a dig. I do think you're dumb if you don't like gdb. Naturally, my opinion comes out in my writing, which I think is my Creative License. You should realize that anything you read is biased. You should read the post for content, mix it with its credibility, and then reach a decision. In the end, I think that my experience programming adds more credibility than my love for snide comments subtracts. That doesn't make me a toughguy, that makes my writing interesting to read.
    - Mithaldu 15y ago
      Let me put it like this: mst you are not.