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A lot of people here are suggesting switching jobs, but I'd recommend just leaving before you do that. If you don't, there's a high likelihood that you'll go to

A lot of people here are suggesting switching jobs, but I'd recommend just leaving before you do that. If you don't, there's a high likelihood that you'll go to far into burnout and it'll take years to want to be near your discipline again. Just fucking leave, it's the only answer. Jobs are like anything else, if you start hating it, it's best to leave, because it won't change. Yes I've been in this situation. Yes I should have left.

giantg2 5y ago
I have a family I have to support, so I can't just leave.
- DamnYuppie 5y ago
  The job market is insane right now. If you are halfway decent and have Java, Python, Ruby, .NET, or Vue/React on your resume you will have 2-3 offers in the next four weeks. Also I would ask do you have an 3-6 month emergency fund? If so then I would simply say leave now, like right now. Take the holidays off to brush up your resume and start your new job hunt. If this job is crushing your professional self esteem there is zero chance it isn't negatively impacting your family. Children pick up on everything and will pay more attention to what you do than say. You are showing them that you are unworthy of being treated well, thereby they will start to internalize that they too are unworthy.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    I'm halfway decent at Neoxam and Filenet. It doesn't seem that insane to me. Sure there are tons of senior postings, but very few midlevel. I don't want to leave until I have something better lined up. Supposedly this place is one of the best companies to work for, so I don't want to be pressured to take a worse job if I don't have income.
    - brailsafe 5y ago
      Why don't you take a month off then? As long as it wouldn't be devastating to your finances, it would be great for your mental health. That's definitely another thing I should have done. But I didn't, and I burnt out, and I got terminated before I could quit which makes it a lot harder to bounce back. Part of the problem is that software dev just absolutely sucks, a lot of the time.
      - giantg2 5y ago
        Thow would be a great idea if I weren't already off track (rating). They will hold that time off against me, especially since it would be a leave of absence. They would have to approve it too. I dont want to be put on a PIP.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    I agree with your latter point, but not your former. The job market isn't that hot, and it's unsafe to be that optimistic. There's a lot of companies looking, but you need to be remarkably lucky or have something notable with your name on it (lucky) to land something that quickly. It's also cheaper than ever for any company to try and filter people out before anyone looks at your resume. You apply, and you get handed a multi-hour long coding test that they bought from HackerRank. Ya maybe you pass it or should be able to, but maybe you've been programming Vue for the last 6 months, they didn't speak to you, and so sent over a React test. Either way, it's an absolute shitshow to interview right now, with a lot of variability in all aspects.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      "but maybe you've been programming Vue for the last 6 months, they didn't speak to you, and so sent over a React test. Either way, it's an absolute shitshow to interview right now, with a lot of variability in all aspects." Yep, this is what I've been seeing a lot of...even for the internal job postings that require a code screen.
- ipnon 5y ago
  Spend a few hours each day, perhaps while clocked into this job you despise, studying a course on interview preparation. I spent $600 dollars on an interview prep course after months of interviews without offers, and I got an offer with an 80% raise on the first interview I did after filling in my knowledge gaps. It's hard to learn how to interview, but it's easier than learning how to program. I have been in your position before. Burnt to a crisp, bitter and angry every morning I logged onto that God forsaken Slack workspace. My biggest regret is not knowing I could have jumped ship as soon as they asked me to work Saturday and Sunday ... again. Do me a favor and do the best for yourself!
  - giantg2 5y ago
    Thanks! I actually do really well in interviews except for the code screen part. I'm always slow on that part since I have limited experience in any one language.

giantg2 5y ago

I have a family I have to support, so I can't just leave.

DamnYuppie 5y ago
The job market is insane right now. If you are halfway decent and have Java, Python, Ruby, .NET, or Vue/React on your resume you will have 2-3 offers in the next four weeks. Also I would ask do you have an 3-6 month emergency fund? If so then I would simply say leave now, like right now. Take the holidays off to brush up your resume and start your new job hunt. If this job is crushing your professional self esteem there is zero chance it isn't negatively impacting your family. Children pick up on everything and will pay more attention to what you do than say. You are showing them that you are unworthy of being treated well, thereby they will start to internalize that they too are unworthy.
- giantg2 5y ago
  I'm halfway decent at Neoxam and Filenet. It doesn't seem that insane to me. Sure there are tons of senior postings, but very few midlevel. I don't want to leave until I have something better lined up. Supposedly this place is one of the best companies to work for, so I don't want to be pressured to take a worse job if I don't have income.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    Why don't you take a month off then? As long as it wouldn't be devastating to your finances, it would be great for your mental health. That's definitely another thing I should have done. But I didn't, and I burnt out, and I got terminated before I could quit which makes it a lot harder to bounce back. Part of the problem is that software dev just absolutely sucks, a lot of the time.
    - giantg2 5y ago
      Thow would be a great idea if I weren't already off track (rating). They will hold that time off against me, especially since it would be a leave of absence. They would have to approve it too. I dont want to be put on a PIP.
- brailsafe 5y ago
  I agree with your latter point, but not your former. The job market isn't that hot, and it's unsafe to be that optimistic. There's a lot of companies looking, but you need to be remarkably lucky or have something notable with your name on it (lucky) to land something that quickly. It's also cheaper than ever for any company to try and filter people out before anyone looks at your resume. You apply, and you get handed a multi-hour long coding test that they bought from HackerRank. Ya maybe you pass it or should be able to, but maybe you've been programming Vue for the last 6 months, they didn't speak to you, and so sent over a React test. Either way, it's an absolute shitshow to interview right now, with a lot of variability in all aspects.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    "but maybe you've been programming Vue for the last 6 months, they didn't speak to you, and so sent over a React test. Either way, it's an absolute shitshow to interview right now, with a lot of variability in all aspects." Yep, this is what I've been seeing a lot of...even for the internal job postings that require a code screen.
ipnon 5y ago
Spend a few hours each day, perhaps while clocked into this job you despise, studying a course on interview preparation. I spent $600 dollars on an interview prep course after months of interviews without offers, and I got an offer with an 80% raise on the first interview I did after filling in my knowledge gaps. It's hard to learn how to interview, but it's easier than learning how to program. I have been in your position before. Burnt to a crisp, bitter and angry every morning I logged onto that God forsaken Slack workspace. My biggest regret is not knowing I could have jumped ship as soon as they asked me to work Saturday and Sunday ... again. Do me a favor and do the best for yourself!
- giantg2 5y ago
  Thanks! I actually do really well in interviews except for the code screen part. I'm always slow on that part since I have limited experience in any one language.