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Without auto updates, a whole load of good that'll do. 99.9% of people are (justifiably) scared to even log in to their router, let alone update it or flash ope

by xxpor 5y ago

Without auto updates, a whole load of good that'll do. 99.9% of people are (justifiably) scared to even log in to their router, let alone update it or flash open source FW. There's frankly a lot to be said about Comcast's current proprietary router model that's basically a completely managed box. You don't even log into the router directly, you manage it on xfinity.com.

brokenmachine 5y ago
> You don't even log into the router directly, you manage it on xfinity.com. Lol, no thanks. The very last thing I need is an ISP controlling my LAN.
- antihero 5y ago
  Then get your own router and use their one as a glorified modem (some ISP routers will actually have a modem mode where they act purely as a modem)
  - wil421 5y ago
    Xfinity will allow you to bring both a modem and a router. AT&T will not because their gateway/router does authentication into their network. Some people on the UniFi forums were able to pass authentication back to the gateway but it reduced speed.
  - brokenmachine 5y ago
    I'm not with xfinity but that is what I do.
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josteink 5y ago
> You don't even log into the router directly, you manage it on xfinity.com. That's absolutely the worst thing I can imagine. My current ISP (Telia) tried to replace their at-home FTTH box with one which can only be managed through their company portal (https://telia.no/minside https://telia.no/minside). I threatened with immediate service-termination unless they returned the old box which could be managed locally. I mean... There's lines I'm not willing to cross and a router which I'm not allowed to manage locally is simply not allowed in my house.
- xxpor 5y ago
  I agree it's the worst thing ever for me and you. But it's awfully nice that I don't need to setup a VPN at my grandma's house 2000 miles away to help her troubleshoot some things.
- bserge 5y ago
  I had that kind of router in Belgium. Either way, just use your own router.
- tallanvor 5y ago
  Are you in Norway and formerly on Get? If so, I'd recommend getting your own router anyway - you just need one that allows you to specify the VLAN for the WAN, at least in my area they hide internet on VLAN 10. You still need their ONT as far as I know, but I can live with that.
  - josteink 5y ago
    Yeah. Get Fiber to the home package. I’m not sure if simply jumping on the right VLAN is enough though. So I’m pedantic and in true HN spirit I’ve bought a secondary Get box (second-hand, with original Get firmware). It arrived today, and I’m in the process of completely tearing it apart and reverse-engineering the entire setup for usage with OpenWRT. So far I’ve extracted the PCB, figured out the serial interface and pinout, found out there’s no “free” root from there and are now in the process of extracting the full firmware via the built in bootloader for further analysis. If I find anything else interesting I’ll let you know :D

by xxpor 5y ago

brokenmachine 5y ago

> You don't even log into the router directly, you manage it on xfinity.com. Lol, no thanks. The very last thing I need is an ISP controlling my LAN.

antihero 5y ago
Then get your own router and use their one as a glorified modem (some ISP routers will actually have a modem mode where they act purely as a modem)
- wil421 5y ago
  Xfinity will allow you to bring both a modem and a router. AT&T will not because their gateway/router does authentication into their network. Some people on the UniFi forums were able to pass authentication back to the gateway but it reduced speed.
- brokenmachine 5y ago
  I'm not with xfinity but that is what I do.
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josteink 5y ago

> You don't even log into the router directly, you manage it on xfinity.com. That's absolutely the worst thing I can imagine. My current ISP (Telia) tried to replace their at-home FTTH box with one which can only be managed through their company portal (https://telia.no/minside https://telia.no/minside). I threatened with immediate service-termination unless they returned the old box which could be managed locally. I mean... There's lines I'm not willing to cross and a router which I'm not allowed to manage locally is simply not allowed in my house.

xxpor 5y ago
I agree it's the worst thing ever for me and you. But it's awfully nice that I don't need to setup a VPN at my grandma's house 2000 miles away to help her troubleshoot some things.
bserge 5y ago
I had that kind of router in Belgium. Either way, just use your own router.
tallanvor 5y ago
Are you in Norway and formerly on Get? If so, I'd recommend getting your own router anyway - you just need one that allows you to specify the VLAN for the WAN, at least in my area they hide internet on VLAN 10. You still need their ONT as far as I know, but I can live with that.
- josteink 5y ago
  Yeah. Get Fiber to the home package. I’m not sure if simply jumping on the right VLAN is enough though. So I’m pedantic and in true HN spirit I’ve bought a secondary Get box (second-hand, with original Get firmware). It arrived today, and I’m in the process of completely tearing it apart and reverse-engineering the entire setup for usage with OpenWRT. So far I’ve extracted the PCB, figured out the serial interface and pinout, found out there’s no “free” root from there and are now in the process of extracting the full firmware via the built in bootloader for further analysis. If I find anything else interesting I’ll let you know :D