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Not true at all, totally depends on the type of observation campaign. Plenty of big observatory projects are negatively impacted by the eternal march of "progre

Not true at all, totally depends on the type of observation campaign. Plenty of big observatory projects are negatively impacted by the eternal march of "progress."

tick_tock_tick 5y ago
> "progress." Do you really think Starlink is not a step forward? It is realistically the only path to get the whole world access to the internet.
- SllX 5y ago
  If by “whole world” you mean the wilderness, then sure! Otherwise we’ve had no issues laying cables to any place people live, so long as it makes sense to do so.
  - WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
    If by "makes sense" you mean to ISP shareholders - for ISPs to take federal USF funds and never, ever deliver on the required upgrades or expansions (eg:Frontier@WV,Verizon@PA), due to regulatory capture.
    - petschge 5y ago
      And as usual the US is dragging down the entire planet instead of fixing the corruption at home.
    - SllX 5y ago
      I’m not going to be the one to defend the actions of a group of my least favorite companies in America, but you hit on the main point that stands up globally: where it is profitable to lay cables down. So yes, where it makes sense to shareholders. That’s not to discount Starlink, it is a comparative advantage to be able to cover the wilderness, but that and not being an existing ISP people have had lots of experience with are its distinguishing features.
- spacemark 5y ago
  >get the whole world access to the internet Starlink is yet another printing press, a tool to control information. It can be wielded for good and bad, just like any other technology, and it will be for both. Has the internet made the world happier? Better? By whose definition? It's certainly made many wealthier, but it's also destabilized countries, facilitated genocide, spread misinformation like nothing before. Just like any other communications technology. The worship of tech as savior in silicon valley and its followers never ceases to amaze me. Tech is inert; has no intrinsic moral value at all.

Not true at all, totally depends on the type of observation campaign. Plenty of big observatory projects are negatively impacted by the eternal march of "progress."

tick_tock_tick 5y ago

> "progress." Do you really think Starlink is not a step forward? It is realistically the only path to get the whole world access to the internet.

SllX 5y ago
If by “whole world” you mean the wilderness, then sure! Otherwise we’ve had no issues laying cables to any place people live, so long as it makes sense to do so.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  If by "makes sense" you mean to ISP shareholders - for ISPs to take federal USF funds and never, ever deliver on the required upgrades or expansions (eg:Frontier@WV,Verizon@PA), due to regulatory capture.
  - petschge 5y ago
    And as usual the US is dragging down the entire planet instead of fixing the corruption at home.
  - SllX 5y ago
    I’m not going to be the one to defend the actions of a group of my least favorite companies in America, but you hit on the main point that stands up globally: where it is profitable to lay cables down. So yes, where it makes sense to shareholders. That’s not to discount Starlink, it is a comparative advantage to be able to cover the wilderness, but that and not being an existing ISP people have had lots of experience with are its distinguishing features.
spacemark 5y ago
>get the whole world access to the internet Starlink is yet another printing press, a tool to control information. It can be wielded for good and bad, just like any other technology, and it will be for both. Has the internet made the world happier? Better? By whose definition? It's certainly made many wealthier, but it's also destabilized countries, facilitated genocide, spread misinformation like nothing before. Just like any other communications technology. The worship of tech as savior in silicon valley and its followers never ceases to amaze me. Tech is inert; has no intrinsic moral value at all.