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If you live in Vancouver and are staying there it is not an issue. But there is an amazing huge scale issue of access to the interior of British Columbia. 2

by pomian 5y ago

If you live in Vancouver and are staying there it is not an issue. But there is an amazing huge scale issue of access to the interior of British Columbia. 2 out of 3 highways from Alberta are closed. That means you have to drive either an ~ extra 500 miles north, or south, to travel 50-100 miles west or east. There is no way to travel across a whole region of a huge country. Similar to closing all east west highways in southern California, from the Mexico border to lake Tahoe. Sure , you can drive down to Mexico, across to Tijuana, and back up.

selimthegrim 5y ago
Which highway to Alberta is open?
- Phithagoras 5y ago
  Highway 16 and the 43 (2 on the BC side) are still open. They're probably referring to the 16 because the 43 is pretty out of the way. The 1 and 3 is still open on the AB side too, though avalanches were/are causing trouble in Rogers Pass in central BC. any drive conditions in BC can be checked at https://drivebc.ca/ https://drivebc.ca/ in AB https://511.alberta.ca/#:MyRoutes https://511.alberta.ca/#:MyRoutes Anyone who was seriously motivated to get to the rest of Canada could drive through the US or take a ferry to Vancouver island, drive to Port Hardy, take a ferry to Bella Coola or Prince Rupert and drive to the rest of the country from there. It would take forever and the roads from Bella Coola and Prince Rupert are notorious. Vancouverites say the Coquihalla is the gnarliest road in Canada, and it just shows that they've never seen the rest of their country. The 2 lane, gravel, Heckman Pass on highway 20 is nothing like the paved, seperated 4-6 lanes of the Coq.
jonwest 5y ago
I live in Vancouver. It absolutely is an issue. It’s a huge issue. We are the primary port for western Canada. All shipments that would have been routed via road and rail travel through Vancouver now need to be rerouted either via air or through the USA. Gas shipments are going to be complicated. Food shipments are going to be complicated. These highways that are closed due to collapse are built into the side of mountains and require significant engineering testing in order to be deemed safe to rebuild on, not taking into account the amount of engineering that’s required to actually safely and sustainably rebuild them. Suburbs of Vancouver (Abbotsford) are essentially underwater. It is patently false to say this isn’t an issue for people who are living and staying in Vancouver. Hell, even major highways within Vancouver have been shut down. These are much more temporary shutdowns than the primary highways out of town, but still require respecting in order to repair and restore which limits travel.
- pomian 5y ago
  I didnt mean to belittle your issues. I was trying to respond to op, that this affects the whole province, and is actually serious. I think it will become moreso as we move along. As you say, there is some serious engineering ahead. We were wondering how long to fix rail road? If a hundred years ago, it seems as if we could act faster. During WW II also. We shall see fast 'they' fix this. and for that matter, the whole country. If rail down, no Chinese imports, no metallurgical coal or grain exports.
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by pomian 5y ago

selimthegrim 5y ago

Which highway to Alberta is open?

Phithagoras 5y ago
Highway 16 and the 43 (2 on the BC side) are still open. They're probably referring to the 16 because the 43 is pretty out of the way. The 1 and 3 is still open on the AB side too, though avalanches were/are causing trouble in Rogers Pass in central BC. any drive conditions in BC can be checked at https://drivebc.ca/ https://drivebc.ca/ in AB https://511.alberta.ca/#:MyRoutes https://511.alberta.ca/#:MyRoutes Anyone who was seriously motivated to get to the rest of Canada could drive through the US or take a ferry to Vancouver island, drive to Port Hardy, take a ferry to Bella Coola or Prince Rupert and drive to the rest of the country from there. It would take forever and the roads from Bella Coola and Prince Rupert are notorious. Vancouverites say the Coquihalla is the gnarliest road in Canada, and it just shows that they've never seen the rest of their country. The 2 lane, gravel, Heckman Pass on highway 20 is nothing like the paved, seperated 4-6 lanes of the Coq.

jonwest 5y ago

I live in Vancouver. It absolutely is an issue. It’s a huge issue. We are the primary port for western Canada. All shipments that would have been routed via road and rail travel through Vancouver now need to be rerouted either via air or through the USA. Gas shipments are going to be complicated. Food shipments are going to be complicated. These highways that are closed due to collapse are built into the side of mountains and require significant engineering testing in order to be deemed safe to rebuild on, not taking into account the amount of engineering that’s required to actually safely and sustainably rebuild them. Suburbs of Vancouver (Abbotsford) are essentially underwater. It is patently false to say this isn’t an issue for people who are living and staying in Vancouver. Hell, even major highways within Vancouver have been shut down. These are much more temporary shutdowns than the primary highways out of town, but still require respecting in order to repair and restore which limits travel.

pomian 5y ago
I didnt mean to belittle your issues. I was trying to respond to op, that this affects the whole province, and is actually serious. I think it will become moreso as we move along. As you say, there is some serious engineering ahead. We were wondering how long to fix rail road? If a hundred years ago, it seems as if we could act faster. During WW II also. We shall see fast 'they' fix this. and for that matter, the whole country. If rail down, no Chinese imports, no metallurgical coal or grain exports.
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