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Its to the point where I'd rather have text than icons in the various menus.

endgame 5y ago
Look at old pictures of (say) Netscape Navigator. Despite having far fewer pixels we somehow had enough to label our icons. What went wrong?
- vb6sp6 5y ago
  Globalization happened English "250 views" = 8 chars wide German "250 mal angesehen" = 17 chars wide English "FAQ" = 3 chars wide Portuguese "Perguntas freqüentes" = 20 characters wide It isn't uncommon for english words to expand 200-300% when translated to other languages. I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels
  - SubiculumCode 5y ago
    I imagine that abbreviations are common in these languages?
    - vb6sp6 5y ago
      It really depends on the phrase. FAQ was just used as an extreme example.
      - abakker 5y ago
        I think when I was in 4th grade, using Netscape, I spoke english but didn't know what FAQ meant. I think I probably searched it on Altavista.
      - faqfaq 5y ago
        The French made up a translation to fit the acronym. FAQ = “Foire aux questions”, where “foire” is the French word for a fair, a place where you go to see many things (in this case, questions).
  - CmdrKrool 5y ago
    > I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png Doesn't look like a showstopper, at least for the specific toolbar icons that Netscape had.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      "Verwandte Objek" seems cut off, it should be "Objekte" but other than that it aligns pretty well. Ps my German is basic so perhaps I'm wrong
    - vb6sp6 5y ago
      nice find! There are a few English bits on there: guide, stop, shop. Wonder why
      - vurpo 5y ago
        "Guide" and "stop" are not only English words, but present in lots of European languages. "Shop" is a common loanword from English in lots of these European languages.

Look at old pictures of (say) Netscape Navigator. Despite having far fewer pixels we somehow had enough to label our icons. What went wrong?

vb6sp6 5y ago
Globalization happened English "250 views" = 8 chars wide German "250 mal angesehen" = 17 chars wide English "FAQ" = 3 chars wide Portuguese "Perguntas freqüentes" = 20 characters wide It isn't uncommon for english words to expand 200-300% when translated to other languages. I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels
- SubiculumCode 5y ago
  I imagine that abbreviations are common in these languages?
  - vb6sp6 5y ago
    It really depends on the phrase. FAQ was just used as an extreme example.
    - abakker 5y ago
      I think when I was in 4th grade, using Netscape, I spoke english but didn't know what FAQ meant. I think I probably searched it on Altavista.
    - faqfaq 5y ago
      The French made up a translation to fit the acronym. FAQ = “Foire aux questions”, where “foire” is the French word for a fair, a place where you go to see many things (in this case, questions).
- CmdrKrool 5y ago
  > I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png Doesn't look like a showstopper, at least for the specific toolbar icons that Netscape had.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    "Verwandte Objek" seems cut off, it should be "Objekte" but other than that it aligns pretty well. Ps my German is basic so perhaps I'm wrong
  - vb6sp6 5y ago
    nice find! There are a few English bits on there: guide, stop, shop. Wonder why
    - vurpo 5y ago
      "Guide" and "stop" are not only English words, but present in lots of European languages. "Shop" is a common loanword from English in lots of these European languages.