> But how would you study abstract math without those abstractions? I'm not saying you would, I'm just saying the abstractions are directly related to why its

> But how would you study abstract math without those abstractions? I'm not saying you would, I'm just saying the abstractions are directly related to why its harder. > since you still want those explanations, but they stop existing after a point. You're misunderstanding me. > The next step is to remove everything concrete about it and just study abstractions. And then you start studying abstractions of those abstractions, hence "abstract nonsense". Maybe sometimes in the future someone will invent abstractions of those. Yes, I understand all this. I have the textbooks and I've read parts of them. The reason I didn't study math more seriously (I considered it) is because I realized I didn't have the brain for it and am not that interested in studying really abstract stuff.