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> The chinese room needs to be taken super-literally: does the person just doing a "hash-table lookup" on "the right answers to pre-prosed questions" actually u
by 3np 5y ago
> The chinese room needs to be taken super-literally: does the person just doing a "hash-table lookup" on "the right answers to pre-prosed questions" actually understand.
That’s not how it’s phrased. The Chinese Room needs to pass the Turing Test with arbitrary input of Chinese characters. So a convincing Chinese Elissa basically.
> The issue here is that if "computer" isnt just a trivial property it has to include, eg., measurability, determinism, etc. Properties that reality lacks. Reality isnt a computer.
Reality isn’t a human brain either.
Or is it?
Either way I don’t see how that is relevant.
- denton-scratch 5y agoThere's a confusion in the language I'm seeing in the comments, between "understand" as in knowing a language, and "understand" as in possessing a useful mental model of a system. I don't see why a machine can't be said to "know" a language; after all, it can translate languages. I can translate from French to English (I'm a native English speaker); but there are sentences in English that I can't "understand", either because I don't really know what all the words mean, or because the concept expressed by the sentence is beyond me.