If you're speaking about the USA then I'm not really sure we disagree as much as you think. I'm from Canada and have observed that Americans suffer from more po

If you're speaking about the USA then I'm not really sure we disagree as much as you think. I'm from Canada and have observed that Americans suffer from more political corruption than Canadians. I didn't say there was no corruption, I just said that it correlated with the map. Did Donald Trump leave office with a helicopter full of money? No. Did he grift as much as he could along side plenty of other grifters from politicians to lobbyists, absolutely. But in percent of GDP terms, the USA is still leagues ahead of places like Afghanistan or most countries of Central Africa. Even Vietnam and Ukraine had much higher corruption than the USA, in my experience, and I'm friends with some interesting people like military contractors and business owners, accountants for Gazprom, etc.