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Couldn't we just use ratio of overall views to likes? Videos that are highly disliked won't have a good views/likes ratio compared to a video that is highly lik

by umvi 5y ago

Couldn't we just use ratio of overall views to likes? Videos that are highly disliked won't have a good views/likes ratio compared to a video that is highly liked. Also, RIP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
Because then someone (e.g., YT or advertisers) would use this as a monetization KPI and then creators would get punished for users not hitting the like button when they fell asleep and YT auto-played 37 videos overnight.
- dylan604 5y ago
  How does this happen? I can't get it to complete 1 "full album playlist" without it pausing with a pop-up asking if I'm still watching.
  - d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
    Maybe because I pay for no ads YT? Best decision I ever made.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      I use blockers, best decision I ever made. However, ads have nothing to do with YT not wanting to waste bandwidth by streaming 24/7 if nobody is viewing it. Netflix does it (the first I noticed doing it), Amazon does it. I'm assuming HBOMax will get to it.
lolpython 5y ago
I don't think so, because some videos have high numbers of views with low numbers of likes and dislikes.
chaorace 5y ago
I had a very similar thought! Much of the discourse around the removal of visible dislikes revolves around lost utility. Finding another way to provide similar utility value feels like a highly palatable solution to me. I'm not exactly a Google-tier product designer, so I have to imagine such a proposal has already been seriously considered... Perhaps they're waiting for the dust to settle before trying other approaches? In any case, the idea is not necessarily novel in the social media space. I recently learned that Twitter has a similar strategy for discerning content quality: the ratio[1]. It's not something that's explicitly exposed to users as a statistic, but it's basically just one step away. [1]: https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/ https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/
samstave 5y ago
eASILY gAMIFIED fUCK IT i AM NOT HITTING THAT BUTTON NOW. dOUBLING DOWN!

by umvi 5y ago

d0gsg0w00f 5y ago

Because then someone (e.g., YT or advertisers) would use this as a monetization KPI and then creators would get punished for users not hitting the like button when they fell asleep and YT auto-played 37 videos overnight.

dylan604 5y ago
How does this happen? I can't get it to complete 1 "full album playlist" without it pausing with a pop-up asking if I'm still watching.
- d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
  Maybe because I pay for no ads YT? Best decision I ever made.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    I use blockers, best decision I ever made. However, ads have nothing to do with YT not wanting to waste bandwidth by streaming 24/7 if nobody is viewing it. Netflix does it (the first I noticed doing it), Amazon does it. I'm assuming HBOMax will get to it.

lolpython 5y ago

I don't think so, because some videos have high numbers of views with low numbers of likes and dislikes.

chaorace 5y ago

I had a very similar thought! Much of the discourse around the removal of visible dislikes revolves around lost utility. Finding another way to provide similar utility value feels like a highly palatable solution to me. I'm not exactly a Google-tier product designer, so I have to imagine such a proposal has already been seriously considered... Perhaps they're waiting for the dust to settle before trying other approaches? In any case, the idea is not necessarily novel in the social media space. I recently learned that Twitter has a similar strategy for discerning content quality: the ratio[1]. It's not something that's explicitly exposed to users as a statistic, but it's basically just one step away. [1]: https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/ https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/

samstave 5y ago

eASILY gAMIFIED fUCK IT i AM NOT HITTING THAT BUTTON NOW. dOUBLING DOWN!