> This is all simply speculation until you find evidence of planes shot down by the US that aren't listed on Wikipedia. Because English Wikipedia is the most c

> This is all simply speculation until you find evidence of planes shot down by the US that aren't listed on Wikipedia. Because English Wikipedia is the most conclusive and authoritative collection of such incidents? > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, provide it or quit this speculative bullshit. So we know about two instances, one of them very well established, the other one being a "maybe", yet a third one would suddenly be "extraordinary"? In what context exactly?