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>> Still, kind of difficult to believe the US only had two incidents of that nature. > Why’s that difficult to believe? Because of stories like this: https://

>> Still, kind of difficult to believe the US only had two incidents of that nature. > Why’s that difficult to believe? Because of stories like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/us/us-airstrikes-civilian-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/us/us-airstrikes-civilian... > Without warning, an American F-15E attack jet… dropped a 500-pound bomb on the crowd, swallowing it in a shuddering blast. As the smoke cleared, a few people stumbled away in search of cover. Then a jet tracking them dropped one 2,000-pound bomb, then another, killing most of the survivors. > The site of the bombing was bulldozed; the unit that conducted the strike vindicated itself; key evidence was buried; military logs were altered; and investigations were stalled and subverted. Although the Pentagon's independent inspector general managed to launch a probe, "the report containing its findings was stalled and stripped of any mention of the strike." The last paragraph is some Karimov's Uzbekistan level shit.

ericmay 5y ago
What does an air strike in a war zone have to do with US missiles or fighter jets shooting down commercial airliners? If you’re going to say “we don’t trust them” or something you’d have to then go and find all sorts of unaccounted for airliners that disappeared without cause and just decide to, without evidence, claim the U.S. secretly shot them down and is covering it up. It’s just a big conspiracy goose hunt. Oh and while you’re at it, we can toss in that airliners that crashed were just secret US cover-ups of shooting them down maliciously too because they “scrubbed the logs”.
- janeroe 5y ago
  What war zone has to do with people sitting in a secure facility and drone attacking civilians on the other side of the planet? Then covering that up. > you’d have to then go and find all sorts of unaccounted for airliners that disappeared without cause Wrong. Open the list above and see the soviet cases. None of those were unaccounted. They just crashed "of natural causes".
  - ericmay 5y ago
    > What war zone has to do with people sitting in a secure facility and drone attacking civilians on the other side of the planet? Then covering that up I think it's because the people doing what you're describing are doing it to a war zone and not commercial airliners? Are drone pilots shooting down commercial airliners now? I'm confused. And if you take issue with calling the area a war zone no big deal, let's just call it a defined geographic area. It's beside the point. > Wrong. Open the list above and see the soviet cases. None of those were unaccounted. They just crashed "of natural causes". Ok. Can you list some civilian airliners that the US shot down and is covering? I'd love to know more about that. As far as I know the U.S. isn't shooting down airliners and covering it up but hey maybe you have some really good evidence or sources.
    - janeroe 5y ago
      If you forgot the parent comment was about "reckless behavior". Bombing weddings, hospitals, whole families who worked for the US (as in the latest case in Afghanistan), and running civilians seems quite reckless to me. I have no info on US downing commercial planes. But given the history of war crimes and lack of accountability I wouldn't be surprised if they did something of that sort.
      - ericmay 5y ago
        Sure, and the Dutch have a history of colonizing people and chopping off the hands of Africans so they probably secretly shoot down commercial airliners too. I have no proof but ya know I wouldn’t put it past them.
        janeroe 5y ago
        > Sure, and the Dutch have a history of colonizing people You're a bit of a moron, aren't you? Dutch colonizing history is just that, history. War crimes are committed right as we talk. The family of 10 (2 y.o. girl, 6, 7, 13, and 16 y.o. boys; their 20 y.o. brother and other family members) was executed with Biden's authorization just 2 months ago [1]. [1]: https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1436424154375458816 https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1436424154375458816

ericmay 5y ago

What does an air strike in a war zone have to do with US missiles or fighter jets shooting down commercial airliners? If you’re going to say “we don’t trust them” or something you’d have to then go and find all sorts of unaccounted for airliners that disappeared without cause and just decide to, without evidence, claim the U.S. secretly shot them down and is covering it up. It’s just a big conspiracy goose hunt. Oh and while you’re at it, we can toss in that airliners that crashed were just secret US cover-ups of shooting them down maliciously too because they “scrubbed the logs”.

janeroe 5y ago
What war zone has to do with people sitting in a secure facility and drone attacking civilians on the other side of the planet? Then covering that up. > you’d have to then go and find all sorts of unaccounted for airliners that disappeared without cause Wrong. Open the list above and see the soviet cases. None of those were unaccounted. They just crashed "of natural causes".
- ericmay 5y ago
  > What war zone has to do with people sitting in a secure facility and drone attacking civilians on the other side of the planet? Then covering that up I think it's because the people doing what you're describing are doing it to a war zone and not commercial airliners? Are drone pilots shooting down commercial airliners now? I'm confused. And if you take issue with calling the area a war zone no big deal, let's just call it a defined geographic area. It's beside the point. > Wrong. Open the list above and see the soviet cases. None of those were unaccounted. They just crashed "of natural causes". Ok. Can you list some civilian airliners that the US shot down and is covering? I'd love to know more about that. As far as I know the U.S. isn't shooting down airliners and covering it up but hey maybe you have some really good evidence or sources.
  - janeroe 5y ago
    If you forgot the parent comment was about "reckless behavior". Bombing weddings, hospitals, whole families who worked for the US (as in the latest case in Afghanistan), and running civilians seems quite reckless to me. I have no info on US downing commercial planes. But given the history of war crimes and lack of accountability I wouldn't be surprised if they did something of that sort.
    - ericmay 5y ago
      Sure, and the Dutch have a history of colonizing people and chopping off the hands of Africans so they probably secretly shoot down commercial airliners too. I have no proof but ya know I wouldn’t put it past them.
      - janeroe 5y ago
        > Sure, and the Dutch have a history of colonizing people You're a bit of a moron, aren't you? Dutch colonizing history is just that, history. War crimes are committed right as we talk. The family of 10 (2 y.o. girl, 6, 7, 13, and 16 y.o. boys; their 20 y.o. brother and other family members) was executed with Biden's authorization just 2 months ago [1]. [1]: https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1436424154375458816 https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1436424154375458816