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when I learned the magic letters LTSB, I was finally able to see the decent OS hiding under all the bloat Win10 has foisted on top of it hope there will be a s

when I learned the magic letters LTSB, I was finally able to see the decent OS hiding under all the bloat Win10 has foisted on top of it hope there will be a similar version for Win11

dend 5y ago
Challenge with that is you lose access to a bunch of “nice-to-haves” that enable you to use Visual Studio or play games due to missing dependencies. LTSB/C is great for isolated environments that are somewhat frozen in time, but for consumer scenarios those can be full of gaps.
- jareklupinski 5y ago
  that's interesting, my primary (and only, really) use-case for windows is gaming. i only get games through Steam and they're mostly post-2010 titles, hoping thats the reason i havent run into dep issues yet my motivation wasn't blocking telemetry or whatever, I just needed to squeeze every single frame out of my aging rig, and dove down the rabbit hole of optimizing win10 starting with LTSB i had to jump back to win10 pro after a failed migration to LTSC, but i'm constantly looking for an excuse and will probably go to win11 only if there's a similar route (and then maybe even gladly :) )
  - tehbeard 5y ago
    Have you given proton/Steam on linux a try?
    - DoctorDabadedoo 5y ago
      Not OP, but last time I tried (1-2y ago or so) it "worked" but had severe performance issues, animation lag, input lag, etc. I played a bit with it using Grim Dawn (a diablo like action rpg). Don't know if there were significant improvements since then.
      - tehbeard 5y ago
        I'd imagine its improved since then, especially with Steam touting a Linux handheld. I need to find a spare SSD and time/energy so I can dual boot and try it out on a "regular" system.
    - jareklupinski 5y ago
      i have heard good things, i'll try it before reaching for win11 :)
- throaway46546 5y ago
  I use LTSC for gaming and haven't had any issues. What's broken with Visual Studio?
Markoff 5y ago
I have even better word Ameliorated https://ameliorated.info/ https://ameliorated.info/
amanzi 5y ago
As far as I'm aware, Microsoft are planning to continue with the LTSC versions for the foreseeable future. But I don't think it would be suitable for a home user - I'm not even sure how a home user can get hold of it? I'd love to go back to Windows 2000 - in fact there was a post on here the other day about running it in Docker on Linux!
- jareklupinski 5y ago
  get a hold of the software? iirc the Windows 10 evaluation isos were available on the website, hopefully Windows 11 will follow soon https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-... get a hold of the license? for ltsb/c there were a few reddit threads and a few key resellers, but the instructions seemed to change every few months :(

when I learned the magic letters LTSB, I was finally able to see the decent OS hiding under all the bloat Win10 has foisted on top of it hope there will be a similar version for Win11

dend 5y ago

Challenge with that is you lose access to a bunch of “nice-to-haves” that enable you to use Visual Studio or play games due to missing dependencies. LTSB/C is great for isolated environments that are somewhat frozen in time, but for consumer scenarios those can be full of gaps.

jareklupinski 5y ago
that's interesting, my primary (and only, really) use-case for windows is gaming. i only get games through Steam and they're mostly post-2010 titles, hoping thats the reason i havent run into dep issues yet my motivation wasn't blocking telemetry or whatever, I just needed to squeeze every single frame out of my aging rig, and dove down the rabbit hole of optimizing win10 starting with LTSB i had to jump back to win10 pro after a failed migration to LTSC, but i'm constantly looking for an excuse and will probably go to win11 only if there's a similar route (and then maybe even gladly :) )
- tehbeard 5y ago
  Have you given proton/Steam on linux a try?
  - DoctorDabadedoo 5y ago
    Not OP, but last time I tried (1-2y ago or so) it "worked" but had severe performance issues, animation lag, input lag, etc. I played a bit with it using Grim Dawn (a diablo like action rpg). Don't know if there were significant improvements since then.
    - tehbeard 5y ago
      I'd imagine its improved since then, especially with Steam touting a Linux handheld. I need to find a spare SSD and time/energy so I can dual boot and try it out on a "regular" system.
  - jareklupinski 5y ago
    i have heard good things, i'll try it before reaching for win11 :)
throaway46546 5y ago
I use LTSC for gaming and haven't had any issues. What's broken with Visual Studio?

Markoff 5y ago

I have even better word Ameliorated https://ameliorated.info/ https://ameliorated.info/

amanzi 5y ago

As far as I'm aware, Microsoft are planning to continue with the LTSC versions for the foreseeable future. But I don't think it would be suitable for a home user - I'm not even sure how a home user can get hold of it? I'd love to go back to Windows 2000 - in fact there was a post on here the other day about running it in Docker on Linux!

jareklupinski 5y ago
get a hold of the software? iirc the Windows 10 evaluation isos were available on the website, hopefully Windows 11 will follow soon https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-... get a hold of the license? for ltsb/c there were a few reddit threads and a few key resellers, but the instructions seemed to change every few months :(