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Not to mention men get no benefit out of marriage anymore. I mean there was some book I remember reading on reddit from the 1920s or 40s where women were not su

Not to mention men get no benefit out of marriage anymore. I mean there was some book I remember reading on reddit from the 1920s or 40s where women were not supposed to reject their husbands advances. Now you could be tried for sexual assault as a couple ffs. On top of this, divorce universally screws over men. When you create incentive programs such as divorce, a population doesnt take long to adapt to the institutions horror stories. No marriage means no alimony on breakup. Also no marriage means women wont be as likely to leave if they do not work because of it especially if they have a small support network. Women have also become more independent. Much like Japan, many western women dont wanna be baby makers. The government kinda forgot though that...well...its kinda important for society. Single mothers increasing helps nobody and dudes are less likely to pay child support when not from marriage. Overall its been a massive cultural change that will affect future generations significantly. How do you get people to care for a future they arent allowed to create? If anything, apathy to the future generations has been growing since many people dont have children to care for.

spywaregorilla 5y ago
> Not to mention men get no benefit out of marriage anymore. I mean there was some book I remember reading on reddit from the 1920s or 40s where women were not supposed to reject their husbands advances. Now you could be tried for sexual assault as a couple ffs. On top of this, divorce universally screws over men. God this is creepy. If someone doesn't want to have sex with you, and you force them to, that's rape.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  It was the culture for a lot longer than the US ever existed you know. Obviously it's not right but it goes to show how marriage used to be a construct for men. I can't see how being a perpetual friend who rarely has sex warranting marriage. That was my point though (as weird as it is). The incentive structure has changed now that sex can often be a "only for children" or "I'm not feeling it this month sweetie" experience. Enough men see this on top of other negative aspects of marriage and have it ingrained in them that they won't even risk it. You're safer to establish a business then dissolve it upon "dissolution of the relationship-business" than you are to get married. Cause the government treats business members equally but treat divorces unequally.

spywaregorilla 5y ago

> Not to mention men get no benefit out of marriage anymore. I mean there was some book I remember reading on reddit from the 1920s or 40s where women were not supposed to reject their husbands advances. Now you could be tried for sexual assault as a couple ffs. On top of this, divorce universally screws over men. God this is creepy. If someone doesn't want to have sex with you, and you force them to, that's rape.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
It was the culture for a lot longer than the US ever existed you know. Obviously it's not right but it goes to show how marriage used to be a construct for men. I can't see how being a perpetual friend who rarely has sex warranting marriage. That was my point though (as weird as it is). The incentive structure has changed now that sex can often be a "only for children" or "I'm not feeling it this month sweetie" experience. Enough men see this on top of other negative aspects of marriage and have it ingrained in them that they won't even risk it. You're safer to establish a business then dissolve it upon "dissolution of the relationship-business" than you are to get married. Cause the government treats business members equally but treat divorces unequally.