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The entire modern world is built off the backs of men that are willing to do the most dangerous of jobs.
by bobsmooth 5y ago
The entire modern world is built off the backs of men that are willing to do the most dangerous of jobs.
- vmception 5y agoI've been thinking that workforce gender equality would happen faster if men had a predictable choice of being subsidized in heterosexual relationships. I think an even distribution of people would choose that. Seems a lot of energy is spent on not considering how the funnels are different for men and women, and how that factors into dilution of the workforce pipeline by gender initially and over time. My thoughts are that this is a greater factor in everything about this topic. Like, a lot of understanding about the work place structure could be made by noticing that many men don't really want to be there while many women are there out of pride in lieu of other choices. (Many =/= most. Likely an even distribution of all populations experiencing the same thing, except the choice of subsidy.)
- llampx 5y agoEveryone wants gender equality but no one wants to date a man earning less than them.
- vmception 5y agoI’ve seen couples support each other taking turns going to school, but there was the expectation of becoming a dual income couple and even then they were together as economic equals beforehand I can think of one or two couples where the woman was a high level executive with a broke artist waiting for their big break. I would actually dare extrapolate that to an extreme where highly economically unequals get together. But I want to see something more mundane. Like a single earning woman is a UPS driver keeping a man that is so enamored with her ability to provide. Because I’ve seen that with the gender roles reversed, and that attractive woman could have been a live in partner with anyone. This would not be predictable for men in heterosexual relationships right now.
- Waterluvian 5y agoWell, except for all the slaves.
- emsy 5y agoAh yes the slaves that were shipped to oil rigs on wooden boats.
- fastball 5y agoWhen it comes to "the modern world", slave labor has always been a tiny fraction of the overall labor.
- bobsmooth 5y agoSorry, "willing" is inaccurate. "Forced", either through necessity or violence, is the better word.
- Waterluvian 5y agoI support that sentiment. I don’t think anyone truly chooses to do these bad jobs. Perhaps they apply a fake veneer of choice, manliness, romanticism. But ultimately I can only conclude that people do it for lack of a better option.
- edmundsauto 5y agoMany of the (mostly men) people who do this work do so because it’s part of their identity and culture. I would recommend more conversations with folks who do the hard labor.that’s why coal miners vote in ways that don’t make sense! The problem is not the job itself. Many people are fulfilled by working hard dangerous jobs. The problem is the compensation and status.
- exporectomy 5y agoDid they? I thought slaves were mostly used in the ancient world, the undeveloped world, and for non-mechanized agriculture. None of which is really building the modern world, beyond just providing some underlying value. But if you count that, you have to count women having babies too, and all sorts of human endeavors.
- cee_el123 5y agoThis. All the "progress" of the past 100 years has come through exploitative labor, fossil fuel, plastics, reckless mining, massive farming (incl. meat) a tiny extent, through technology, but that too via undercompensated labor of scientists