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I wouldn’t say I love constant change. I think the tool is better and more functional now. It’s more consistent and less distracting.

pseudalopex 5y ago
How are the new tabs more consistent?
- Barrin92 5y ago
  there's a pretty clear trend towards flatter, cleaner design with more space both within Firefox and other software. Whether you approve of it or not, it's hard to argue that the changes to the Firefox UI including the tabs don't make it look more like modern UIs in general. Be that Windows or Gnome, or web-based desktop apps etc...
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    The new tabs look less like tabs in Chrome or any other app.
  - josefx 5y ago
    > cleaner design with more space Why would I want the UI to take up more space? I am using it as a browser, most of the space should be available for the page I "browse" or serve as an efficient way to navigate pages. > don't make it look more like modern UIs If making something look more modern is the goal just take a dump in the middle of an art gallery, that is plenty of modern and about as functional. > Be that Windows or Gnome Edge still has proper tabs, so are you just making shit up now?
    - Barrin92 5y ago
      >Why would I want the UI to take up more space? I don't care what you want, that wasn't the question. The question was how it is consistent. Preferences are notoriously subjective, plenty of people like less clutter, it tends to make things more readable. >Edge still has proper tabs, so are you just making shit up now? On my machine in edge and chrome both unfocussed tabs are flat and divided by like a 1 pixel grey-ish divider or something. I can't really tell much of a difference between that and firefox.
      - josefx 5y ago
        On my system Firefox tabs are only divided by space, there is no obvious "this tab ends here". I would prefer the one pixel wide divider "or something". The active tab looks like a button, it has no connection to the content at all, while on edge I still have a clear connection. That might just trigger an ingrained mental "fuck another incomplete UI framework" response in me, it looks wrong and that the tabs actually still behave like tabs is more surprising than expected, why would anyone expect a button to behave like a tab? Last point, as the new tab style takes up more space than the old style I had it disabled. Of course that didn't work long but somehow the option still fucked up highlighting of the active tab. With that fixed it is at least slightly lighter gray on light gray instead of just light gray for all. Still missing an option to fix that waste of space. > The question was how it is consistent. Then why does it take up more space then the bookmarks? Both are just an Icon with a line of text. Hah, just comparing both lists in the UI makes it clear that consistency is not something Firefox devs. have ever heard of. Note: This is not meant as a request at the Firefox designers to fuck up the bookmarks.
- rgrmrts 5y ago
  Not really the new tab look, but menu bars and other interface elements are more consistent now. Things like the settings hamburger and the “allow mic/camera” popup. There are still some elements that lack a consistent look and feel (I’m personally not the biggest fan of the search on page bottom bar and prefer how Chrome does it).
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    The menus are less consistent with other apps now. I guess removing all color from other elements made things more consistent in a way.

pseudalopex 5y ago

How are the new tabs more consistent?

Barrin92 5y ago
there's a pretty clear trend towards flatter, cleaner design with more space both within Firefox and other software. Whether you approve of it or not, it's hard to argue that the changes to the Firefox UI including the tabs don't make it look more like modern UIs in general. Be that Windows or Gnome, or web-based desktop apps etc...
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  The new tabs look less like tabs in Chrome or any other app.
- josefx 5y ago
  > cleaner design with more space Why would I want the UI to take up more space? I am using it as a browser, most of the space should be available for the page I "browse" or serve as an efficient way to navigate pages. > don't make it look more like modern UIs If making something look more modern is the goal just take a dump in the middle of an art gallery, that is plenty of modern and about as functional. > Be that Windows or Gnome Edge still has proper tabs, so are you just making shit up now?
  - Barrin92 5y ago
    >Why would I want the UI to take up more space? I don't care what you want, that wasn't the question. The question was how it is consistent. Preferences are notoriously subjective, plenty of people like less clutter, it tends to make things more readable. >Edge still has proper tabs, so are you just making shit up now? On my machine in edge and chrome both unfocussed tabs are flat and divided by like a 1 pixel grey-ish divider or something. I can't really tell much of a difference between that and firefox.
    - josefx 5y ago
      On my system Firefox tabs are only divided by space, there is no obvious "this tab ends here". I would prefer the one pixel wide divider "or something". The active tab looks like a button, it has no connection to the content at all, while on edge I still have a clear connection. That might just trigger an ingrained mental "fuck another incomplete UI framework" response in me, it looks wrong and that the tabs actually still behave like tabs is more surprising than expected, why would anyone expect a button to behave like a tab? Last point, as the new tab style takes up more space than the old style I had it disabled. Of course that didn't work long but somehow the option still fucked up highlighting of the active tab. With that fixed it is at least slightly lighter gray on light gray instead of just light gray for all. Still missing an option to fix that waste of space. > The question was how it is consistent. Then why does it take up more space then the bookmarks? Both are just an Icon with a line of text. Hah, just comparing both lists in the UI makes it clear that consistency is not something Firefox devs. have ever heard of. Note: This is not meant as a request at the Firefox designers to fuck up the bookmarks.
rgrmrts 5y ago
Not really the new tab look, but menu bars and other interface elements are more consistent now. Things like the settings hamburger and the “allow mic/camera” popup. There are still some elements that lack a consistent look and feel (I’m personally not the biggest fan of the search on page bottom bar and prefer how Chrome does it).
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  The menus are less consistent with other apps now. I guess removing all color from other elements made things more consistent in a way.