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> then as a user I would have a lot more power over how my browser represents any generic product listing And Amazon / eBay / Twitter / Facebook brand identity

> then as a user I would have a lot more power over how my browser represents any generic product listing And Amazon / eBay / Twitter / Facebook brand identity would be worth so very much less. Amazon doesn't want you to think about a product on their website as interchangeable with a product from eBay or WalMart, they want you to think about their product listing i.e. the listing of the product surrounded by the Amazon Experience. Likewise, Twitter doesn't want you to think of a tweet as a bit of content equivalent to or interchangable with a toot from mastadon or post from Facebook; Twitter wants you to see the Tweet (the content within the context of using Twitter). It is a bit like calling Disney World a theme park. Sure, it has roller coasters and stuff, but describing a thing is not experiencing it.

notpachet 5y ago
> And Amazon / eBay / Twitter / Facebook brand identity would be worth so very much less. Sounds great!
- zdragnar 5y ago
  Sure, if you had a magical fiat wand to make it happen, go for it. The reality is, it won't happen, because average consumers don't care and the big producers and suppliers don't benefit from it at all- quite the opposite. The apocryphal lessons of the betamax vs vhs wars seem to never be learned- no matter how elegant or technically superior something is, it is the "whole product" that matters.
  - notpachet 5y ago
    I don't see this as a market adoption problem; I see it as a regulation problem. This is why we have governments: to enact legislation that requires companies to not run roughshod over the public interest. Regulation is the magical fiat wand. I know that HN's views of GDPR are all over the place, but the reality is that it is possible to enact meaningful legislation to restrict the powers of tech companies, and magnify the power of the end user. You could make the same argument that the average user doesn't care about the data protection measures that GDPR provides. And the corporate interests definitely chafe at those requirements today.

notpachet 5y ago

> And Amazon / eBay / Twitter / Facebook brand identity would be worth so very much less. Sounds great!

zdragnar 5y ago
Sure, if you had a magical fiat wand to make it happen, go for it. The reality is, it won't happen, because average consumers don't care and the big producers and suppliers don't benefit from it at all- quite the opposite. The apocryphal lessons of the betamax vs vhs wars seem to never be learned- no matter how elegant or technically superior something is, it is the "whole product" that matters.
- notpachet 5y ago
  I don't see this as a market adoption problem; I see it as a regulation problem. This is why we have governments: to enact legislation that requires companies to not run roughshod over the public interest. Regulation is the magical fiat wand. I know that HN's views of GDPR are all over the place, but the reality is that it is possible to enact meaningful legislation to restrict the powers of tech companies, and magnify the power of the end user. You could make the same argument that the average user doesn't care about the data protection measures that GDPR provides. And the corporate interests definitely chafe at those requirements today.