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It all depends on the scientific evidence in the highest quality large clinical trials. Ivermectin has failed to show benefit, the Pfizer drug has. >I don’t ca
by belltaco 5y ago
It all depends on the scientific evidence in the highest quality large clinical trials. Ivermectin has failed to show benefit, the Pfizer drug has.
>I don’t care if it is effective or not so much as I don’t think news and corporate interest should drive the national opinion.
Even more frightening is that a lot of people who think that don't have the same opinion on things like these that are way worse than anything NBC News does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
They always focus and nitpick on media that's mostly following the science, and ignore the other side pushing drugs with unsound studies as some kind of magic drugs.
>From what I have heard it seems like looking into it with an unbiased lens may be worth it
And do you really think every country where covid isn't as politicized, like India, Brazil (both of who have extensive experience using ivermectin and HCQ for other users), China, UK, European countries, Canada etc. haven't looked at it with an unbiased lens?
Maybe listen to actual scientists with decades of drug development research experience instead of 'both siding' the conversation?
E.g https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/ivermectin-covid-19-therapy https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/ivermectin-covid-1...
- ipaddr 5y agoWhat makes you think European and Canadian are less politicized over Covid? Canada usually waits for fda approval and data before it approves most things.
- belltaco 5y agoThey might be politicized internally, but they don't give a crap about Trump vs Biden, or red vs. blue. UK, Brazil and India have right wing govts, do you really think they would suppress real cures and destroy their economy and popularity of their leaders and parties due to lockdowns, hospitalizations, and the dead filling up burial grounds. If HCQ or IVR actually worked, a leader would have mandated it and would have become hugely popular for saving their country from a pandemic that other countries are getting roiled by. Imagine how much more popular Boris or Modi would become, it would literally seal their next election win. Or maybe IVR or HCQ aren't good drugs against covid and are hyped up for political reasons by some and then pushed by others who aren't capable of properly reading or understanding scientific studies. This conspiracy only makes sense to people who cannot think broadly, skeptically and logically.
- lazide 5y agoBolsanaro in Brazil definitely tried to do that with HCQ - but it didn’t actually work, so at some point he just stopped and pretended he never did it.
- unavoidable 5y agoEurope and Canada approved AstraZeneca's vaccine while the FDA didn't (not debating whether it was a "good" decision, just that it did). Canada also approved of vaccine dose mixing (out of necessity, but nonetheless it was clearly not following the FDA). Plus, by and large Europe and Canada's leaders did not actively harm Covid treatment and vaccine efforts (many policy missteps, but nobody was actively politicizing the virus itself).
- naasking 5y ago> Ivermectin has failed to show benefit, the Pfizer drug has. Ivermectin has failed to be seriously studied, while the patentable drug got a good study out of the gate. I wonder why.
- belltaco 5y agoBecause the Trump admin didn't match Pfizer's level of funding? I wonder why.
- lazide 5y agoBrazil as less politicized around Covid? Really?! Bolsanaro hyper-politicized it even more than Trump, even accusing the governors of using it to try to make him look bad.