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I'd rather spend the money on healthcare for very sick children with little chance of survival than on the military.

DamnYuppie 5y ago
Your comment in no way addresses the OP's stance. It was known there would be issues if they continued with pregnancy, they did, and now they want others to pay for their decision.
- tehjoker 5y ago
  Parents get to choose. I thought you guys were against death panels.
google234123 5y ago
Without infinite resources, you have to have some form of rationing. Here is an example of how one socialized medical care system does it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Health_and_Care_Excellence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Health_...
- tehjoker 5y ago
  Time to ration the military it seems.
  - deleted 5y ago
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1cvmask 5y ago
Well we spend over $1.25 trillion on the national security state, but we don't have money for full healthcare coverage in a pandemic. https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2019/05/making-sense-of-the-1-25-trillion-national-security-state-budget/ https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2019/05/making-sense-of-the-1-...
- google234123 5y ago
  We've spent multiple trillions on this pandemic already (look at the national debt). Much more than on the military which has been declining as share of GDP since WW2.
  - wombatpm 5y ago
    With what we spent on the War on Terror, every American could have had $15k a year for the last 20 years, yet healthcare is too expensive.
    - CrazyStat 5y ago
      You're off by at least an order of magnitude there. I see estimates from $6 trillion[1] to $8 trillion[2] for the cost of the war on terror. Taking the high estimate and the 2001 population of 285 million (i.e. ignoring population growth since 2001) gives $28k per person, or $1400 per year over 20 years. Accounting for population growth and taking the lower cost estimate decreases the amount further. [1] https://www.vox.com/22654167/cost-deaths-war-on-terror-afghanistan-iraq-911 https://www.vox.com/22654167/cost-deaths-war-on-terror-afgha... [2] https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar
    - atdrummond 5y ago
      That’s off by an order of magnitude - that’s over $100T.
  - long_time_gone 5y ago
    > Much more than on the military which has been declining as share of GDP since WW2. This was true until we started two different wars following 9/11.
    - google234123 5y ago
      There was a spike but it's been back to declining for a while now. I was talking about the overall trendline.

Your comment in no way addresses the OP's stance. It was known there would be issues if they continued with pregnancy, they did, and now they want others to pay for their decision.

tehjoker 5y ago
Parents get to choose. I thought you guys were against death panels.

google234123 5y ago

Without infinite resources, you have to have some form of rationing. Here is an example of how one socialized medical care system does it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Health_and_Care_Excellence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_for_Health_...

tehjoker 5y ago
Time to ration the military it seems.
- deleted 5y ago
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1cvmask 5y ago

Well we spend over $1.25 trillion on the national security state, but we don't have money for full healthcare coverage in a pandemic. https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2019/05/making-sense-of-the-1-25-trillion-national-security-state-budget/ https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2019/05/making-sense-of-the-1-...

google234123 5y ago
We've spent multiple trillions on this pandemic already (look at the national debt). Much more than on the military which has been declining as share of GDP since WW2.
- wombatpm 5y ago
  With what we spent on the War on Terror, every American could have had $15k a year for the last 20 years, yet healthcare is too expensive.
  - CrazyStat 5y ago
    You're off by at least an order of magnitude there. I see estimates from $6 trillion[1] to $8 trillion[2] for the cost of the war on terror. Taking the high estimate and the 2001 population of 285 million (i.e. ignoring population growth since 2001) gives $28k per person, or $1400 per year over 20 years. Accounting for population growth and taking the lower cost estimate decreases the amount further. [1] https://www.vox.com/22654167/cost-deaths-war-on-terror-afghanistan-iraq-911 https://www.vox.com/22654167/cost-deaths-war-on-terror-afgha... [2] https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar https://www.brown.edu/news/2021-09-01/costsofwar
  - atdrummond 5y ago
    That’s off by an order of magnitude - that’s over $100T.
- long_time_gone 5y ago
  > Much more than on the military which has been declining as share of GDP since WW2. This was true until we started two different wars following 9/11.
  - google234123 5y ago
    There was a spike but it's been back to declining for a while now. I was talking about the overall trendline.