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I use MacOS for work - I think it's a fine OS. Biggest thing for me is that it's UNIX based. I wouldn't use a MacBook myself though. They certainly are damn fi

by jjice 5y ago

I use MacOS for work - I think it's a fine OS. Biggest thing for me is that it's UNIX based. I wouldn't use a MacBook myself though. They certainly are damn fine machines for the price (M1), but I really don't like MacOS having a bunch of stuff I don't need, like Garage Band. I know Windows has a ton of bloat as well, and MacOS's bloat is more useful, generally speaking. It's not for most people, but any popular user friendly Linux distro like Ubuntu has little bloat. Unfortunately, those aren't as user friendly as MacOS or Windows (I assume this will garner some opposing opinions).

warning26 5y ago
I mean, you can uninstall Garageband. If you do a clean MacOS install, Garageband isn't even included (you have to download it separately).
- jjice 5y ago
  This was a brand new machine sent to me by my company and it was preinstalled. Is it not bundled with a fresh install, but with a newly sold device?
  - warning26 5y ago
    Correct -- newly sold devices include a bunch of preinstalled software that's not on the OS image by default. Apple's done that for ages; I remember their earlier computers even came with a bunch of random games, like Nanosaur™.
lostgame 5y ago
GarageBand doesn’t come pre installed with a Mac, hasn’t for years; and only came pre installed for a very brief couple years.
- jjice 5y ago
  https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/built-in-apps-mchl110b00b7/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/built-in-apps-mchl1... It's on this list from Apple, but the additional comment in the table row makes it sound like it had been gone for a bit and now it's default again? This was a store-new machine and it was installed on there - don't know why it would be there otherwise.
least 5y ago
The major Desktop Environments have their own software suites that you'd reasonably call bloat (especially KDE Plasma), and then distributions frequently by default come installed with even more bloat.

by jjice 5y ago

warning26 5y ago

I mean, you can uninstall Garageband. If you do a clean MacOS install, Garageband isn't even included (you have to download it separately).

jjice 5y ago
This was a brand new machine sent to me by my company and it was preinstalled. Is it not bundled with a fresh install, but with a newly sold device?
- warning26 5y ago
  Correct -- newly sold devices include a bunch of preinstalled software that's not on the OS image by default. Apple's done that for ages; I remember their earlier computers even came with a bunch of random games, like Nanosaur™.

lostgame 5y ago

GarageBand doesn’t come pre installed with a Mac, hasn’t for years; and only came pre installed for a very brief couple years.

jjice 5y ago
https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/built-in-apps-mchl110b00b7/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/built-in-apps-mchl1... It's on this list from Apple, but the additional comment in the table row makes it sound like it had been gone for a bit and now it's default again? This was a store-new machine and it was installed on there - don't know why it would be there otherwise.

least 5y ago

The major Desktop Environments have their own software suites that you'd reasonably call bloat (especially KDE Plasma), and then distributions frequently by default come installed with even more bloat.