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You are being very generous by calling them an "investigatory committee". They routinely compare the anti Covid measures by the German government to the Holocau

You are being very generous by calling them an "investigatory committee". They routinely compare the anti Covid measures by the German government to the Holocaust [1]. On the same site, you can also see that they touted the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated. They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems. [1] https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Stiftung_Corona-Ausschuss https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Stiftung_Corona-Ausschus...

trhway 5y ago
>They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems. great sign of progress. Just mere 400 years ago they would have been tortured and burned at stake as heretics. Though who knows, the way things been moving lately ...
- rat87 5y ago
  Yes I see it as progress that YouTube kicks off antivax conspiracies. It would be nice if Facebook did the same
  - trhway 5y ago
    From USSR times I'm very sceptical about supposed truths which can't stand on their merits alone and require active administrative suppression of the doubt to maintain the perception of truthiness.
    - Karsteski 5y ago
      Out of curiosity, why did people downvote this comment? I find that it states a very valid concern in our digital age where information can be very effectively suppressed from the majority of people, regardless if I agree or disagree with the message of said information.
  - ravenstine 5y ago
    Yeah, because surely governments and medical institutions have never lied to, hurt, or killed anyone. They say they want to help us and no one should be allowed to say otherwise. And I'm sure YouTube's only motivation is to protect us.
1cvmask 5y ago
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- martneumann 5y ago
  None of these things relate to what the "Corona-Ausschuss" has been doing in any way. Just because the government does shady things, doesn't mean the quack theories by some people on the internet are suddenly correct. Especially when they do not believe Covid exists, or if it does that it's a bioweapon, which is apparently harmless for some reason, but masks don't work and vaccines don't work, either... They also receive lots of support and attention from Russians state media. It is to be assumed that the Russian state has an interest in fanning the flames here and to sow doubt in the German government. Isn't it ironic that the Russian media in Germany pushes any negative vaccine story they can find to foster hesitancy, but urges its own population to get vaccinated ASAP in domestic media? I will leave it at that.
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  Are you sure you meant to toss the Maine in there? Because history strongly suggests that was a maintenance failure / expected consequence of the volatile coal used at the time. If anything, the story of the Maine proves the rule; it reminds us that sometimes conspiracies aren't.
  - 1cvmask 5y ago
    Yes. They spread a whole bunch of conspiracies to justify the war. Those conspiracies were later proven to be bogus. The USS Maine was not blown up by the Spanish as the US media asserted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_Spanish-American_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_Spanish-Amer...
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  >> the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated. > Everything is a conspiracy theory till proven otherwise. Please tell me this comment is ironic.
HideousKojima 5y ago
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- soco 5y ago
  As your examples correctly point out, the sites documenting government abuses were not censored. Only the tinfoil wackos were taken down, so I believe in this particular case it works as expected. (later clarification: anyway I definitely don't like the way YouTube goes and I'd post my stuff also on other sites)
  - thriftwy 5y ago
    These abuses are also historical. They ought to have a different censorship dynamic from current events.
- nawgz 5y ago
  What does this piece of misdirection have to do with the fact that this channel promoted - falsely - anti-vaccine myths and in doing so made TOS-violating statements? It is clear that government and corporation are both largely morally devoid institutions in the modern age, but this doesn't even rely on any traditional sense of trust. The data is published and we can see what it does and doesn't do, and if you want to discard that you mightaswell just take the kid gloves off and type something really offensive next
  - HideousKojima 5y ago
    >The data is published and we can see what it does and doesn't do See my last link
    - nawgz 5y ago
      Yes, a link suggesting 1k of 44k participants in the Pfizer Phase III trials were not well monitored and had other logistical issues does not surprise me. It does not concern me either; have you seen the reduced IFR post vaccination? It is not like 2% of 1/3 vaccines phase III participants is even a notable amount of the data. Like I said, if this type of thing is enough for you to go forward and claim that the whole thing is a lie, I think you’re creeping into some very dumb territory.

trhway 5y ago

>They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems. great sign of progress. Just mere 400 years ago they would have been tortured and burned at stake as heretics. Though who knows, the way things been moving lately ...

rat87 5y ago
Yes I see it as progress that YouTube kicks off antivax conspiracies. It would be nice if Facebook did the same
- trhway 5y ago
  From USSR times I'm very sceptical about supposed truths which can't stand on their merits alone and require active administrative suppression of the doubt to maintain the perception of truthiness.
  - Karsteski 5y ago
    Out of curiosity, why did people downvote this comment? I find that it states a very valid concern in our digital age where information can be very effectively suppressed from the majority of people, regardless if I agree or disagree with the message of said information.
- ravenstine 5y ago
  Yeah, because surely governments and medical institutions have never lied to, hurt, or killed anyone. They say they want to help us and no one should be allowed to say otherwise. And I'm sure YouTube's only motivation is to protect us.

1cvmask 5y ago

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martneumann 5y ago
None of these things relate to what the "Corona-Ausschuss" has been doing in any way. Just because the government does shady things, doesn't mean the quack theories by some people on the internet are suddenly correct. Especially when they do not believe Covid exists, or if it does that it's a bioweapon, which is apparently harmless for some reason, but masks don't work and vaccines don't work, either... They also receive lots of support and attention from Russians state media. It is to be assumed that the Russian state has an interest in fanning the flames here and to sow doubt in the German government. Isn't it ironic that the Russian media in Germany pushes any negative vaccine story they can find to foster hesitancy, but urges its own population to get vaccinated ASAP in domestic media? I will leave it at that.
shadowgovt 5y ago
Are you sure you meant to toss the Maine in there? Because history strongly suggests that was a maintenance failure / expected consequence of the volatile coal used at the time. If anything, the story of the Maine proves the rule; it reminds us that sometimes conspiracies aren't.
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  Yes. They spread a whole bunch of conspiracies to justify the war. Those conspiracies were later proven to be bogus. The USS Maine was not blown up by the Spanish as the US media asserted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_Spanish-American_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_Spanish-Amer...
throwawaygh 5y ago
>> the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated. > Everything is a conspiracy theory till proven otherwise. Please tell me this comment is ironic.

HideousKojima 5y ago

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soco 5y ago
As your examples correctly point out, the sites documenting government abuses were not censored. Only the tinfoil wackos were taken down, so I believe in this particular case it works as expected. (later clarification: anyway I definitely don't like the way YouTube goes and I'd post my stuff also on other sites)
- thriftwy 5y ago
  These abuses are also historical. They ought to have a different censorship dynamic from current events.
nawgz 5y ago
What does this piece of misdirection have to do with the fact that this channel promoted - falsely - anti-vaccine myths and in doing so made TOS-violating statements? It is clear that government and corporation are both largely morally devoid institutions in the modern age, but this doesn't even rely on any traditional sense of trust. The data is published and we can see what it does and doesn't do, and if you want to discard that you mightaswell just take the kid gloves off and type something really offensive next
- HideousKojima 5y ago
  >The data is published and we can see what it does and doesn't do See my last link
  - nawgz 5y ago
    Yes, a link suggesting 1k of 44k participants in the Pfizer Phase III trials were not well monitored and had other logistical issues does not surprise me. It does not concern me either; have you seen the reduced IFR post vaccination? It is not like 2% of 1/3 vaccines phase III participants is even a notable amount of the data. Like I said, if this type of thing is enough for you to go forward and claim that the whole thing is a lie, I think you’re creeping into some very dumb territory.