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Governments should stick to governence and stop doing stupid shit.

simion314 5y ago
Like what? Without government doing infrastructure probably most people would not have a electricity,water and a decent road in front of their home. Or how would we imagine an alternate reality where the governments are weak, so the industrial billionaires would be the ones deciding what infrastructure to build, what science to research, what level of education is needed etc. I can only see just a few roads , with taxes on them, electricity only in the city, education and hygiene only for the rich(in fact there were governmental/king laws that forced people not to shit everywhere).
- blocked_again 5y ago
  Imagine a power generation company run by Joe Biden with his white House staff vs Elon Musk with his Tesla staff. Which stock would you buy? I bet the Biden company will go bankrupt in a few years let alone go public.
  - pphysch 5y ago
    Modern career politicians like Joe Biden are cut from a completely different cloth than the leaders that actually built America's infrastructure in the mid-20th century.
  - oneplane 5y ago
    Do you really believe they will be going out there, researching, designing, and implementing anything? They are policymakers and all their job entails is making choices. That's it. And when you are in a country and the options you present has a huge effect on that country, then the government's job is to represent the people in making the choice do either do it or not do it. Then there are the lifelong politicians, those are mostly useless and more comparable to entertainers in an endless gameshow. It's the result of decades of min-maxing and targeting the lowest common denominator.
  - simion314 5y ago
    You mean Elon companies that have received a ton of money from various governments? Without the government Elon would make cars for rich kids only.
    - trixie_ 5y ago
      If only the government had helped Boeing and Ford, they could be as successful as SpaceX and Tesla.
      - simion314 5y ago
        First of all I said "goverments" so I don't meant he USA one n particular, Tesla made a lot of money from other goverments too. Second, the US government from my understanding is doing an pretty open bidding, so SpaceX benefited from that, the reason no SpaceX appeared before is not something I can speculate , maybe there was a need for a new generation of people , or maybe we needed IT to evolve, I am not sure. I also have no idea if SpaceX would ahve existed if they could not have benefited until now and from now on on government contracts. Also let's not pretend to forget that SpaceX internet stuff is based on government research/invention. No government no roads for Tesla to run on, no Internet for Starlink to exist.

Like what? Without government doing infrastructure probably most people would not have a electricity,water and a decent road in front of their home. Or how would we imagine an alternate reality where the governments are weak, so the industrial billionaires would be the ones deciding what infrastructure to build, what science to research, what level of education is needed etc. I can only see just a few roads , with taxes on them, electricity only in the city, education and hygiene only for the rich(in fact there were governmental/king laws that forced people not to shit everywhere).

blocked_again 5y ago
Imagine a power generation company run by Joe Biden with his white House staff vs Elon Musk with his Tesla staff. Which stock would you buy? I bet the Biden company will go bankrupt in a few years let alone go public.
- pphysch 5y ago
  Modern career politicians like Joe Biden are cut from a completely different cloth than the leaders that actually built America's infrastructure in the mid-20th century.
- oneplane 5y ago
  Do you really believe they will be going out there, researching, designing, and implementing anything? They are policymakers and all their job entails is making choices. That's it. And when you are in a country and the options you present has a huge effect on that country, then the government's job is to represent the people in making the choice do either do it or not do it. Then there are the lifelong politicians, those are mostly useless and more comparable to entertainers in an endless gameshow. It's the result of decades of min-maxing and targeting the lowest common denominator.
- simion314 5y ago
  You mean Elon companies that have received a ton of money from various governments? Without the government Elon would make cars for rich kids only.
  - trixie_ 5y ago
    If only the government had helped Boeing and Ford, they could be as successful as SpaceX and Tesla.
    - simion314 5y ago
      First of all I said "goverments" so I don't meant he USA one n particular, Tesla made a lot of money from other goverments too. Second, the US government from my understanding is doing an pretty open bidding, so SpaceX benefited from that, the reason no SpaceX appeared before is not something I can speculate , maybe there was a need for a new generation of people , or maybe we needed IT to evolve, I am not sure. I also have no idea if SpaceX would ahve existed if they could not have benefited until now and from now on on government contracts. Also let's not pretend to forget that SpaceX internet stuff is based on government research/invention. No government no roads for Tesla to run on, no Internet for Starlink to exist.