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I keep saying it: the ERA was a (successful) ruse by the elite class to further dilute and weaken the middle class dressed up with a feminist guise.

mikestew 5y ago
You might not have to "keep saying it" if you gave a little more context and detail as to what you're on about. That, and explain the acronym for those that are under, oh, about sixty years old.
celtain 5y ago
You know the ERA hasn't been ratified, right?
- JohnWhigham 5y ago
  Yes? You also know that something as momentous as a constitutional amendment doesn't happen in a vacuum either, right? It still had the effect of nearly doubling the size of the workforce, and now ~50 years later we're now seeing what it means to have a dual-earner family income. The middle class is rapidly shrinking and the dream of owning a house for many newlyweds is fast receding in the rear view mirror, but hey, equality! Right?
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > It still had the effect of nearly doubling the size of the workforce No, it didn't. That ship had already sailed before ERA was proposed, and was a major driver for it.
  - adolph 5y ago
    It is interesting to think about the societal changes that drive or are driven by a constitutional amendment. If the ERA was a 1920s progressivist goal [1] then maybe one could say that it was part of a broader change to formalize work effort that existed in informal household economies. If the ERA reference is to the early 1970s effort [1] then it was a lagging indicator since the economic integration of women into the formal economy was well underway and would arrive at an equilibrium by the 1990s [0]. Exploring the counterfactual numbers: If the workforce gender share remained at the 4:6 F:M ratio of 1972, then a male workforce of 85m would mean a female workforce of 34m instead of the actual 75m. This would lead to a total workforce of 119m instead of 160m, a decrease of 41m or 25%. Would the USSR have won the cold war if the US had 25% less economic growth over the last 50 years? 0. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/lfp/civilianlfbysex https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/lfp/civilianlfbysex 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment
pomian 5y ago
What is ERA?
- mikestew 5y ago
  A proposed amendment to the U. S. Constitution called the Equal Rights Amendment, giving equal legal rights to all regardless of gender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

mikestew 5y ago

You might not have to "keep saying it" if you gave a little more context and detail as to what you're on about. That, and explain the acronym for those that are under, oh, about sixty years old.

celtain 5y ago

You know the ERA hasn't been ratified, right?

JohnWhigham 5y ago
Yes? You also know that something as momentous as a constitutional amendment doesn't happen in a vacuum either, right? It still had the effect of nearly doubling the size of the workforce, and now ~50 years later we're now seeing what it means to have a dual-earner family income. The middle class is rapidly shrinking and the dream of owning a house for many newlyweds is fast receding in the rear view mirror, but hey, equality! Right?
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > It still had the effect of nearly doubling the size of the workforce No, it didn't. That ship had already sailed before ERA was proposed, and was a major driver for it.
- adolph 5y ago
  It is interesting to think about the societal changes that drive or are driven by a constitutional amendment. If the ERA was a 1920s progressivist goal [1] then maybe one could say that it was part of a broader change to formalize work effort that existed in informal household economies. If the ERA reference is to the early 1970s effort [1] then it was a lagging indicator since the economic integration of women into the formal economy was well underway and would arrive at an equilibrium by the 1990s [0]. Exploring the counterfactual numbers: If the workforce gender share remained at the 4:6 F:M ratio of 1972, then a male workforce of 85m would mean a female workforce of 34m instead of the actual 75m. This would lead to a total workforce of 119m instead of 160m, a decrease of 41m or 25%. Would the USSR have won the cold war if the US had 25% less economic growth over the last 50 years? 0. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/lfp/civilianlfbysex https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/lfp/civilianlfbysex 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

pomian 5y ago

What is ERA?

mikestew 5y ago
A proposed amendment to the U. S. Constitution called the Equal Rights Amendment, giving equal legal rights to all regardless of gender: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment