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You're free to move to Europe, earn 3x less, and get 1-2 years parental leave (actually not just for mothers in some countries!)
by tomp 5y ago
You're free to move to Europe, earn 3x less, and get 1-2 years parental leave (actually not just for mothers in some countries!)
- acdha 5y agoThis isn't practical advice for most people and a significant fraction of the people affected are not looking at anything like a 3x pay cut, especially when you factor in the significantly greater amount we pay for healthcare, which parents will likely use more than they previously did.
- ahevia 5y agoAn extremely impractical solution for majority of Americans who don’t want to uproot their life. Surely we can show some empathy and demand better benefits for all. You know youre included in that pool too! I’m sure most folks on their deathbed will be glad they spent more time with their children then at their desk.
- antoinealb 5y agoI think lumping together all European countries like that is not really helpful: not many european countries have a median income one third of the american one, and some are even higher than the US one. wrt duration of maternity leave, western europe is pretty much at 3-6 months, while some of the eastern countries go longer. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave)
- kazen44 5y agoAlso, immigrating to european countries for americans is not so easy, especially if you are not in a high paying in demand field.
- pertymcpert 5y agoAre you actually proposing that as a solution? Are you against paid parental leave?
- jseban 5y agoI'm against it. Why give people less responsibility and less freedom, as they get smarter and more educated. And why revert to a more costly and inefficient public sector to achieve this. Seems like moving in the absolute wrong direction to me. Socialism and "free stuff" is something that I'm absolutely against in every way. And people have full control over having children. I see no point whatsoever in having paid parental leave, what's the reason why? "it's nice"?
- pertymcpert 5y agoDo you think that's the right thing to do from a moral standpoint? Are you aware of how callous you are?
- jseban 5y agoTo educate people to take responsibility for their lives? Yes, I think that's the right thing to do from a moral standpoint. People deserve freedom and deserve empowerment. I think it's morally wrong to have forced guardianship of adults.
- CheezeIt 5y agoIt’s callous to not give people free money, that you took from other people? Is it callous to throw criminals in jail? Is it callous to expect people to save money? Maybe principles, morality, and justice are callous.
- pertymcpert 5y agoWhat a pointless comment. It's much more nuanced than giving people free money. Next you'd be saying it's not callous to not help someone out of a burning building unless they paid their taxes for the fire fighters.
- jseban 5y agoThe parent comment is an equally pointless call for sympathy with no substance.
- jgwil2 5y agoHmm, I'm pretty sure that Europe has not opened its borders.