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How is "being both mentally and physically fit" a form of intelligence? Not to say it's not important, or something to work toward, but let's not turn this into

by pc86 5y ago

How is "being both mentally and physically fit" a form of intelligence? Not to say it's not important, or something to work toward, but let's not turn this into some weird participation trophy "everybody is smart in their own way" nonsense. Having clinical depression doesn't make you more or less intelligent. Being socially awkward doesn't change your intelligence. Conflating EQ as a different "kind" of intelligence is silly.

tene 5y ago
Regarding "being both mentally and physically fit", while I agree that it's not intelligence on its own, I think this is a good description of the biggest source of variance in the intelligence I can apply to a task at any given time. I'm way smarter when I'm well-rested, well-fed, being active, etc.
dahart 5y ago
You’re diving head-first into the philosophical question of what “intelligence” means, but arguing without defining it yourself. You could offer your definition if you want. You could also allow for and acknowledge that there are people who define the word differently than you, right? Since your comment is hinting at this underlying implication, one question to answer up front is why you want to rule out factors that will improve your odds of a better outcome. Why are you resisting wisdom and emotional ability as a factor of intelligence? If people can accurately pattern match their historical lessons and/or emotions and apply it effectively to situations, that is a form of intelligence, no? > How is “being both mentally and physically fit” a form of intelligence? Despite people’s attempts to measure pure smartness potential, learning and education increases intelligence on every metric we have today. Studies have also shown that exercise has a meaningful impact on intelligence, and that it can be used to treat depression. I’d agree that being socially awkward doesn’t change your intelligence, but it can affect people’s perception of your intelligence and feed back into your motivations and actions in a negative way. Anyway, social awkwardness is something one can fix with learning and practice. > Conflating EQ as a different “kind” of intelligence is silly. You are referring to Emotional Intelligence? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence

by pc86 5y ago

tene 5y ago

Regarding "being both mentally and physically fit", while I agree that it's not intelligence on its own, I think this is a good description of the biggest source of variance in the intelligence I can apply to a task at any given time. I'm way smarter when I'm well-rested, well-fed, being active, etc.

dahart 5y ago

You’re diving head-first into the philosophical question of what “intelligence” means, but arguing without defining it yourself. You could offer your definition if you want. You could also allow for and acknowledge that there are people who define the word differently than you, right? Since your comment is hinting at this underlying implication, one question to answer up front is why you want to rule out factors that will improve your odds of a better outcome. Why are you resisting wisdom and emotional ability as a factor of intelligence? If people can accurately pattern match their historical lessons and/or emotions and apply it effectively to situations, that is a form of intelligence, no? > How is “being both mentally and physically fit” a form of intelligence? Despite people’s attempts to measure pure smartness potential, learning and education increases intelligence on every metric we have today. Studies have also shown that exercise has a meaningful impact on intelligence, and that it can be used to treat depression. I’d agree that being socially awkward doesn’t change your intelligence, but it can affect people’s perception of your intelligence and feed back into your motivations and actions in a negative way. Anyway, social awkwardness is something one can fix with learning and practice. > Conflating EQ as a different “kind” of intelligence is silly. You are referring to Emotional Intelligence? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence