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WTF. I remember when I was younger and driving maybe not drunk but heavily buzzed was more accepted, glad it's not any more. This is stupid though, I dont want

WTF. I remember when I was younger and driving maybe not drunk but heavily buzzed was more accepted, glad it's not any more. This is stupid though, I dont want a machine that thinks it knows better than me. Subtitle on the article is accurate, this is nanny state bullshit. I also hate stuff like this because "Computers don't argue": https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc2/showpage.php?page=133 https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc2/showpage.php?page=133 Computer says you're drunk so tough shit, you cant drive to work. Try again tomorrow. Edit: people downvoting are supporting an increase police state. We shouldnt make people prove their not committing a crime to do normal stuff. This is like stop and frisk but automotive.

OneTimePetes 5y ago
"Open the door halcohol".. "Im afraid i cant do that.." "Why not hal?" "Your colone is to rich in ethanol. And so is the window-cleaning fluid and the stuff they spilled over your shirt." "But im not drunk. Let me proof it."
- OneTimePetes 5y ago
  "Only a drunk would argue with a robot-"
jorams 5y ago
> I dont want a machine that thinks it knows better than me. I'm against requiring something like this universally, but drunk driving is such a big problem because intoxicated people feel overconfident in their driving abilities. That's definitely a case where the machine would know better than you.
- tomjen3 5y ago
  I don't think so. If my car told me that I had a too high BAC, I would either think "WTF car, I had a beer yesterday and that is it", or "shit, fuck, what the hell I was certain I could drive now". The trouble comes when the car won't let me override the controls. My tire preasure warning has been going on for little under a week now, but there is no reason for it, so I will reset it soonish. I do appreciate my car warning me though - it took only a few minutes to check.
  - scruple 5y ago
    My brother-in-law had to travel for work and left his car with us. It's a 2020 Honda Civic. The tire pressure warning light came on when I drove it a week ago. I checked the tires, only 1 was 2 PSI low. I filled it up in my garage and then drove it to run some errands, thinking that it would detect the correct pressure and reset the warning light. Nope. I check the manual and there is some tire pressure monitoring system in play that requires an arcane sequence of button presses on the touchscreen display to start the reset process and then the car is required to be driven around for up to an hour between 55 and 60 miles per hour. I can't believe that people accept this sort of shit. Who has time for this sort of shit? I know that these sorts of systems aren't new but this is much worse than the last time I encountered one of these "drive at X speed for Y minutes/miles" systems. And this isn't preventing operation of the vehicle, it's just annoying.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  The machine knows better than drunk-you, sure. The concern is when the machine doesn't let sober-you drive because it incorrectly thinks you're drunk.
  - scruple 5y ago
    My concern is that at least 70%-80% of the population of the country doesn't even consume enough alcohol to be legally drunk in the first place [0]. What happens when this machine decides those people are drunk and can't safely operate their vehicle? [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think...

OneTimePetes 5y ago

"Open the door halcohol".. "Im afraid i cant do that.." "Why not hal?" "Your colone is to rich in ethanol. And so is the window-cleaning fluid and the stuff they spilled over your shirt." "But im not drunk. Let me proof it."

OneTimePetes 5y ago
"Only a drunk would argue with a robot-"

jorams 5y ago

> I dont want a machine that thinks it knows better than me. I'm against requiring something like this universally, but drunk driving is such a big problem because intoxicated people feel overconfident in their driving abilities. That's definitely a case where the machine would know better than you.

tomjen3 5y ago
I don't think so. If my car told me that I had a too high BAC, I would either think "WTF car, I had a beer yesterday and that is it", or "shit, fuck, what the hell I was certain I could drive now". The trouble comes when the car won't let me override the controls. My tire preasure warning has been going on for little under a week now, but there is no reason for it, so I will reset it soonish. I do appreciate my car warning me though - it took only a few minutes to check.
- scruple 5y ago
  My brother-in-law had to travel for work and left his car with us. It's a 2020 Honda Civic. The tire pressure warning light came on when I drove it a week ago. I checked the tires, only 1 was 2 PSI low. I filled it up in my garage and then drove it to run some errands, thinking that it would detect the correct pressure and reset the warning light. Nope. I check the manual and there is some tire pressure monitoring system in play that requires an arcane sequence of button presses on the touchscreen display to start the reset process and then the car is required to be driven around for up to an hour between 55 and 60 miles per hour. I can't believe that people accept this sort of shit. Who has time for this sort of shit? I know that these sorts of systems aren't new but this is much worse than the last time I encountered one of these "drive at X speed for Y minutes/miles" systems. And this isn't preventing operation of the vehicle, it's just annoying.
josephcsible 5y ago
The machine knows better than drunk-you, sure. The concern is when the machine doesn't let sober-you drive because it incorrectly thinks you're drunk.
- scruple 5y ago
  My concern is that at least 70%-80% of the population of the country doesn't even consume enough alcohol to be legally drunk in the first place [0]. What happens when this machine decides those people are drunk and can't safely operate their vehicle? [0]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think...