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>The key difference seems to be not the fraud prevention systems, but the desire to help those in need The key difference is the complete lack of regulation an

by Bayart 5y ago

>The key difference seems to be not the fraud prevention systems, but the desire to help those in need The key difference is the complete lack of regulation and data policies. The potential for malevolence in a country the size of Togo is limited, but I'd rather not have the same processes in my own country.

hkt 5y ago
If size of country is a determinant of public sector efficiency, there's an easy answer to many of the supposed problems of the public sector - secession. Alternatively we could accept the role of outsourcing and the effects of the broken social fabric and the system-wide problems that remain unresolved in the anglosphere countries.
- radu_floricica 5y ago
  Or just decentralization.
shakna 5y ago
> The potential for malevolence in a country the size of Togo is limited, but I'd rather not have the same processes in my own country. The potential for building more advanced fraud protection systems also scales with the nation being discussed. Especially when you consider that the world's largest fraud protection experts are already operating within the borders of most of those richer nations. Why not partner with MasterCard or VISA?
- hpoe 5y ago
  Having worked with the "fraud prevention" departments of the most advanced nation on earth in cases where they screwed up I can guarantee you they aren't that advanced.
- gruez 5y ago
  >Why not partner with MasterCard or VISA? Because the problem domain is different for credit card transactions compared to covid stimulus?
  - shakna 5y ago
    The problem domain is identity verification, by and large. Something that we have many, many very large multinational corporations solving on a transactional basis that absolutely dwarfs stimulus' programs needs. Yet, somehow, the stimulus programs still require exorbitant amounts of their budget to verify known persons, and use this as a way to deny access to those who are most vulnerable.

by Bayart 5y ago

hkt 5y ago

If size of country is a determinant of public sector efficiency, there's an easy answer to many of the supposed problems of the public sector - secession. Alternatively we could accept the role of outsourcing and the effects of the broken social fabric and the system-wide problems that remain unresolved in the anglosphere countries.

radu_floricica 5y ago
Or just decentralization.

shakna 5y ago

> The potential for malevolence in a country the size of Togo is limited, but I'd rather not have the same processes in my own country. The potential for building more advanced fraud protection systems also scales with the nation being discussed. Especially when you consider that the world's largest fraud protection experts are already operating within the borders of most of those richer nations. Why not partner with MasterCard or VISA?

hpoe 5y ago
Having worked with the "fraud prevention" departments of the most advanced nation on earth in cases where they screwed up I can guarantee you they aren't that advanced.
gruez 5y ago
>Why not partner with MasterCard or VISA? Because the problem domain is different for credit card transactions compared to covid stimulus?
- shakna 5y ago
  The problem domain is identity verification, by and large. Something that we have many, many very large multinational corporations solving on a transactional basis that absolutely dwarfs stimulus' programs needs. Yet, somehow, the stimulus programs still require exorbitant amounts of their budget to verify known persons, and use this as a way to deny access to those who are most vulnerable.