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Durable Objects now Generally Available

120 points by bretthoerner 5y ago

Garantinus 5y ago
Alimine error'
FractalHQ 5y ago
This seems like it could be a great platform to flesh out the collaborative Svelte REPL I’ve been working on. It’s using CRDTs over websockets with YJS driving Monaco, and I’ve been fiddling with different ways to keep track of rooms and users while keeping it serverless on the JAMStack. I’ve got Supabase handling auth and data storage, but this could be great glue for the final pieces if I’m understanding DO correctly, and even replace a lot of the need for Postgres outside of Auth.
matt2000 5y ago
Has anybody tried this and can share their experiences? It sounds really cool, but it's usually the edge cases that determine whether something like this is actually good or not. Thanks!
- davidjgraph 5y ago
  Works well. We're planning to move our real-time collaboration system to it once it's out of beta (which I noticed it is, thanks 8-) )
  - bretthoerner 5y ago
    For what it's worth, this post is about it leaving beta. :)
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
mwcampbell 5y ago
Just waiting on edge containers [1] now. Yes, I know the caveats, that it's not for lifting and shifting existing web apps. But I have a backend processing use case that would be a good fit. [1]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/containers-on-the-edge/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/containers-on-the-edge/
kmf 5y ago
Quick plug I'll drop in here (I manage Cloudflare's Developer Advocacy team) - in addition to Durable Objects reaching GA, we also released a great open-source codebase today to help scale your Durable Objects-based projects. It has built-in sharding and communication between connections/shards - basically how we would recommend people build with DO if they want to hit the ground running. Check it out on GitHub! https://github.com/cloudflare/dog https://github.com/cloudflare/dog
david-cako 5y ago
yowzee wowzee :O
aliswe 5y ago
so is this a replacement for cosmos DB?
endisneigh 5y ago
It would be interesting to build something with this on top of SQLite to make a globally distributed fault tolerant SQLite.
- xet7 5y ago
  There already exists some distributed SQLite: https://github.com/canonical/dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite https://github.com/rqlite/rqlite https://github.com/rqlite/rqlite https://github.com/Expensify/Bedrock https://github.com/Expensify/Bedrock https://datacadamia.com/dit/kafka/connector/sqlite_distributed https://datacadamia.com/dit/kafka/connector/sqlite_distribut...
  - otoolep 5y ago
    rqlite author here, happy to answer any questions about it.
- xet7 5y ago
  While it could be interesting, it's kind of expensive to have servers in all of those countries globally, and manage all that required software. So pre-made services like Durable Objects make it much more affordable.
Shadonototra 5y ago
Their chat demo is very nice, i'm not a javascript or a webdev guy, but i'm use to see bloat everywhere whenever someone mentions web stuff > wrangler publish > What are the dependencies? > This demo code does not have any dependencies, aside from Cloudflare Workers (for the server side, chat.mjs) and a modern web browser (for the client side, chat.html). Deploying the code requires Wrangler. I wish more people would care about that kind of details more Well done
- kentonv 5y ago
  Thanks! In all honesty, I do it this way because I hate reading. Like really, really hate it. It just seems way more comfortable to build what I need off the base platform APIs I've known for decades than, like, read an intro guide on how to use the latest library or tool or framework or whatever. Probably not the best way to operate as an engineer but I'm glad it ended up making this demo easier to follow! :D (I'm the tech lead of Cloudflare Workers and I also wrote that chat demo.)

120 points by bretthoerner 5y ago

Alimine error'

This seems like it could be a great platform to flesh out the collaborative Svelte REPL I’ve been working on. It’s using CRDTs over websockets with YJS driving Monaco, and I’ve been fiddling with different ways to keep track of rooms and users while keeping it serverless on the JAMStack. I’ve got Supabase handling auth and data storage, but this could be great glue for the final pieces if I’m understanding DO correctly, and even replace a lot of the need for Postgres outside of Auth.

matt2000 5y ago

Has anybody tried this and can share their experiences? It sounds really cool, but it's usually the edge cases that determine whether something like this is actually good or not. Thanks!

davidjgraph 5y ago
Works well. We're planning to move our real-time collaboration system to it once it's out of beta (which I noticed it is, thanks 8-) )
- bretthoerner 5y ago
  For what it's worth, this post is about it leaving beta. :)
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

mwcampbell 5y ago

Just waiting on edge containers [1] now. Yes, I know the caveats, that it's not for lifting and shifting existing web apps. But I have a backend processing use case that would be a good fit. [1]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/containers-on-the-edge/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/containers-on-the-edge/

kmf 5y ago

Quick plug I'll drop in here (I manage Cloudflare's Developer Advocacy team) - in addition to Durable Objects reaching GA, we also released a great open-source codebase today to help scale your Durable Objects-based projects. It has built-in sharding and communication between connections/shards - basically how we would recommend people build with DO if they want to hit the ground running. Check it out on GitHub! https://github.com/cloudflare/dog https://github.com/cloudflare/dog

david-cako 5y ago

yowzee wowzee :O

aliswe 5y ago

so is this a replacement for cosmos DB?

endisneigh 5y ago

It would be interesting to build something with this on top of SQLite to make a globally distributed fault tolerant SQLite.

xet7 5y ago
There already exists some distributed SQLite: https://github.com/canonical/dqlite https://github.com/canonical/dqlite https://github.com/rqlite/rqlite https://github.com/rqlite/rqlite https://github.com/Expensify/Bedrock https://github.com/Expensify/Bedrock https://datacadamia.com/dit/kafka/connector/sqlite_distributed https://datacadamia.com/dit/kafka/connector/sqlite_distribut...
- otoolep 5y ago
  rqlite author here, happy to answer any questions about it.
xet7 5y ago
While it could be interesting, it's kind of expensive to have servers in all of those countries globally, and manage all that required software. So pre-made services like Durable Objects make it much more affordable.

Shadonototra 5y ago

Their chat demo is very nice, i'm not a javascript or a webdev guy, but i'm use to see bloat everywhere whenever someone mentions web stuff > wrangler publish > What are the dependencies? > This demo code does not have any dependencies, aside from Cloudflare Workers (for the server side, chat.mjs) and a modern web browser (for the client side, chat.html). Deploying the code requires Wrangler. I wish more people would care about that kind of details more Well done

kentonv 5y ago
Thanks! In all honesty, I do it this way because I hate reading. Like really, really hate it. It just seems way more comfortable to build what I need off the base platform APIs I've known for decades than, like, read an intro guide on how to use the latest library or tool or framework or whatever. Probably not the best way to operate as an engineer but I'm glad it ended up making this demo easier to follow! :D (I'm the tech lead of Cloudflare Workers and I also wrote that chat demo.)