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Poor people have more children than rich both per capita and in aggregate Also, I never said only rich people should be able to have children. However at the e

Poor people have more children than rich both per capita and in aggregate Also, I never said only rich people should be able to have children. However at the end of the day raising children requires money. Hence the newly introduced children tax credit.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
Birthrates among poor people are way down: https://www.statista.com/statistics/562541/birth-rate-by-poverty-status-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/562541/birth-rate-by-pov... There may be some effect of the very poorest people having children for the purposes of benefits, but the vast majority of women will have fewer kids once they get access to birth control and financial independence.
- endisneigh 5y ago
  Birthrate isn't my point. Per your chart birth rates are down for everyone. The fact remains that poor people have more children. And more to the original point, people aren't being forced to leave their children.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    My point is lack of access to contraceptives and lack of women’s financial independence might be the reason poorer women have more children. My conjecture is their higher birth rates have little to do with them being poorer.
    - endisneigh 5y ago
      Sure, but that has nothing to do with the original comment which is to say that women don't have to go to work. Nor do men.
    - orangepurple 5y ago
      I am "poor" by choice because my wife takes care of the children in our household. Our lives are richer than those of countless lonely $ millionaires.
      - hattmall 5y ago
        This is the real answer. Nothing else is going to change that. A basic lifestyle isn't that expensive and it's exponentially better than 99% of people's lives 50 years ago. Just making smart shopping decisions can literally double or more your buying power. I really don't get the point of doing something you don't enjoy for 8-12 hours a day just so you can have expensive things.
  - orangepurple 5y ago
    > The fact remains that poor people have more children. Not quite. $ rich people can't afford time with children.

lotsofpulp 5y ago

Birthrates among poor people are way down: https://www.statista.com/statistics/562541/birth-rate-by-poverty-status-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/562541/birth-rate-by-pov... There may be some effect of the very poorest people having children for the purposes of benefits, but the vast majority of women will have fewer kids once they get access to birth control and financial independence.

endisneigh 5y ago
Birthrate isn't my point. Per your chart birth rates are down for everyone. The fact remains that poor people have more children. And more to the original point, people aren't being forced to leave their children.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  My point is lack of access to contraceptives and lack of women’s financial independence might be the reason poorer women have more children. My conjecture is their higher birth rates have little to do with them being poorer.
  - endisneigh 5y ago
    Sure, but that has nothing to do with the original comment which is to say that women don't have to go to work. Nor do men.
  - orangepurple 5y ago
    I am "poor" by choice because my wife takes care of the children in our household. Our lives are richer than those of countless lonely $ millionaires.
    - hattmall 5y ago
      This is the real answer. Nothing else is going to change that. A basic lifestyle isn't that expensive and it's exponentially better than 99% of people's lives 50 years ago. Just making smart shopping decisions can literally double or more your buying power. I really don't get the point of doing something you don't enjoy for 8-12 hours a day just so you can have expensive things.
- orangepurple 5y ago
  > The fact remains that poor people have more children. Not quite. $ rich people can't afford time with children.