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I can relate much more to the other quote about depression than your take. There's plenty of logical reasons to be miserable. Spending too much time thinking ca

by hbn 5y ago

I can relate much more to the other quote about depression than your take. There's plenty of logical reasons to be miserable. Spending too much time thinking can cause depressing realizations. "A wandering mind is an unhappy mind." Here's a thought: no matter what I do, I'm going to die someday and not too long after will likely be forgotten. The most likely way I could be remembered for longer is to be hated by lots of people. Even if for some reason I was remembered as a liked person, I'll either be forgotten in the fall of civilization and, unrealistic but best-case-scenario, the heat death of the universe. That's not a voice in my head lying to me, that's all true. If you want to get into the argument of "none of that matters, the enjoyment to find in life is all the experiences along the way," that's something else entirely. But it doesn't mean those upsetting thoughts are a voice in my head "lying" to me.

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seanw444 5y ago
I find the quote fairly fitting as well.
romwell 5y ago
Well what you resonate with is melancholy, sadness, misery — not depression. Depression is knowing that, say, being stuck in that relationship/job/location makes you miserable, knowing that you can and should get out or otherwise change the environment that's crushing you — and still believing the voice telling you that you should lay low and do nothing about it, that nothing you do matters and you shouldn't try to change it. >enjoyment to find in life is all the experiences along the way Depression is not enjoying anything anymore. Imagine all your favorite food suddenly tasting like paper. It's the same, but with everything you've ever done. Depression will tell you that this is just how things are from now on, and forever. That it's pointless to even try. Depression is not lack of happiness. Sadness, melancholy, even misery and pain aren't depression. I sincerely wish that nobody would resonate with what I'm writing here. But I know that there are many who would. And I want them to know that the voice telling all these things isn't you and is just fake news that your lizard brain broadcasts as a protective response to something that isn't even there. Being trapped in a bad job isn't the same as being trapped in a literal lion's den, but your lizard brain can't tell the difference.
- rubylark 5y ago
  I don't disagree with your interpretation of depression, but I do find fault with this statement: > Depression is not lack of happiness. Sadness, melancholy, even misery and pain aren't depression. I'd argue that melancholy, sadness, and misery can all be the essential framework of other types of depression. Just because you don't experience that kind personally doesn't mean that others don't. I suffer from aural migraines that cause temporary blindness. Some people get migraines without the blanking of vision. Even though someone else with a mind-splitting headache doesn't have the classic visual aberrations with it doesn't mean that they aren't having as painful or incapacitating of a migraine as I am.
  - romwell 5y ago
    Agreeing with this as well, I should have said "aren't necessarily". All those are symptoms of depression.

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seanw444 5y ago

I find the quote fairly fitting as well.

romwell 5y ago

Well what you resonate with is melancholy, sadness, misery — not depression. Depression is knowing that, say, being stuck in that relationship/job/location makes you miserable, knowing that you can and should get out or otherwise change the environment that's crushing you — and still believing the voice telling you that you should lay low and do nothing about it, that nothing you do matters and you shouldn't try to change it. >enjoyment to find in life is all the experiences along the way Depression is not enjoying anything anymore. Imagine all your favorite food suddenly tasting like paper. It's the same, but with everything you've ever done. Depression will tell you that this is just how things are from now on, and forever. That it's pointless to even try. Depression is not lack of happiness. Sadness, melancholy, even misery and pain aren't depression. I sincerely wish that nobody would resonate with what I'm writing here. But I know that there are many who would. And I want them to know that the voice telling all these things isn't you and is just fake news that your lizard brain broadcasts as a protective response to something that isn't even there. Being trapped in a bad job isn't the same as being trapped in a literal lion's den, but your lizard brain can't tell the difference.

rubylark 5y ago
I don't disagree with your interpretation of depression, but I do find fault with this statement: > Depression is not lack of happiness. Sadness, melancholy, even misery and pain aren't depression. I'd argue that melancholy, sadness, and misery can all be the essential framework of other types of depression. Just because you don't experience that kind personally doesn't mean that others don't. I suffer from aural migraines that cause temporary blindness. Some people get migraines without the blanking of vision. Even though someone else with a mind-splitting headache doesn't have the classic visual aberrations with it doesn't mean that they aren't having as painful or incapacitating of a migraine as I am.
- romwell 5y ago
  Agreeing with this as well, I should have said "aren't necessarily". All those are symptoms of depression.