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This poor guy got bells palsy from the vaccine. And he's healthy 56 years old which is a very low-risk group to begin with. The statistics for a healthy 56 year
by nickthemagicman 5y ago
This poor guy got bells palsy from the vaccine. And he's healthy 56 years old which is a very low-risk group to begin with. The statistics for a healthy 56 year old dying of C19 are extremely minimal.
A healthy politician in Australia appareny also came down with Bell's palsy recently after getting the vaccine. Victor Dominello.
"If they talk to me long enough, they notice, even six months later, I still have some lingering symptoms of Bell’s Palsy, which I got following my vaccination. I still have to put drops in my right eye every now and then, still have to drink oddly out of only one side of my mouth. I can’t honestly say there isn’t some minor risk, even though I do add and emphasize, “I would have still gotten vaccinated again. Having my risk of death cut down by 10 times is like, huge man. Worth a few eye drops now and then.”
The susceptibility of people to news media fear mongering influencing them to do things directly against their best interest, like injecting experimental medication or the poor voting for less taxes on the rich... will never cease to amaze me. The power of propaganda.
- romanovcode 5y agoWhile there is a link between COVID vaccine and Bell's palsy, in general it seems one would have greater risk of getting Bell's palsy from COVID itself rather than from the vaccine.
- nickthemagicman 5y ago> greater risk of getting Bell's palsy from COVID itself Maybe if you include all age groups..but in a healthy young person? The oddly flagged thread below has a calculation that shows the possibility that it's worse with references from Jama and Lancet.
- NullPrefix 5y ago>greater risk of getting Bell's palsy from COVID itself rather than from the vaccine Is there any actual science to this?
- morsch 5y agoHere's a place to start: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00467-9/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... which cites https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781368 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarti... among others More generally, Bell's palsy is associated with viral infections of the upper respiratory tract (not limited to covid, and among other things). So it's not surprising that it's a (rare) complication of covid. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bells-palsy/symptoms-causes/syc-20370028 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bells-palsy/s...
- nickthemagicman 5y ago> 19 Bells Palsy per 100 000 vaccine(from paper provided) = 0.00019 > Bells Palsy from COVID in the general poulation 7 million (infected 50 year olds) * .08% (of BP from the paper) = 5600 / 350 million(us population) = 0.000016 Looks like your chances are significantly better NOT getting the vaccine. And it just gets dramatically worse the younger age groups you look at. This is assuming the vaccine affects every age group similarly which there is conveniently no data on that I could find. But according to the news media it does affect everyone the same. References: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781368 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarti... https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254271/us-total-number-of-covid-cases-by-age-group/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254271/us-total-number-...
- morsch 5y agoSo your math answers the question if I take a random American, what's the likelihood they're a person aged 50-64 and they're known to have had Covid by November 10, 2021 and then BP (0.0016%) and you're comparing that to if I get the vaccine, what's the likelihood I get BP within 8 weeks (0.019%). I'm not sure how much sense it makes to compare those two figures. That's ignoring errors in the underlying numbers (US population is wrong).
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- bendews 5y agoLol, look at your own susceptibility to media first. Dominello's vaccination had nothing to do with his Bells Palsy and was way past the point of when the contents of the AstraZeneca vaccine he had taken 3 months earlier would have metabolised. Who knew HackerNews of all places would have accounts spewing misinformation.
- nickthemagicman 5y agoI never said RESULT. I said AFTER. It's a very interesting co-incidence though don't you think especially in light of this article? Do you...a person who falsy claims I'm spreading misinformation...think that the news has good intentions overall and always tells the truth to the best of their ability?
- JuliusPullo 5y agoMisinformation = anything that even slightly contradicts the official government/media version.