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Used to use sharedrop.io but found the “saved messages” option in Telegram is just the most zero friction option for mobile <-> desktop transfers.

by dmje 5y ago

grandpoobah 5y ago
I do the same, and I think it's sad that this is the best we can do in 2021 :)
- _trampeltier 5y ago
  It's even more worse in the mobile world. I would share a lot of pictures after two weeks holiday with somebody who has an Iphone. I have an Android phone. There is not way to transfer pictures direct from Android to Iphone (holiday location != flat rate). WTF 2021.
  - crtasm 5y ago
    Use an app like https://www.lonelycatgames.com/docs/xplore/wifi-share https://www.lonelycatgames.com/docs/xplore/wifi-share over the local wifi (or make the android a hotspot to connect directly) ?
    - _trampeltier 5y ago
      Yes if course there are Apps. There are Apps for everything .. but this should work just without something special.
      - crtasm 5y ago
        you want hotspot/wifi filesharing standard with the OS? would be useful indeed but I'm not surprised we don't have that. maybe running python -m http.server in Termux is more attractive.
  - GoblinSlayer 5y ago
    Open the picture on the screen and let iphone scan it.
- dandanua 5y ago
  Yes, today it's much harder to transfer files in a local network without using cloud (or external coordinator), for some reason.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    Is it? If you have the IP of the sender/receiver, it's trivial to use even something like netcat to send/receive files. Samba works as well if you want something more user-friendly and integrated with the traditional file explorers on various OSes.
  - sekh60 5y ago
    Samba, NFS, SSH, scp, there are tons of ways to locally transfer files without a server if you know the IP address.
    - denton-scratch 5y ago
      Samba without a server? Maybe this is a new feature, I must look into it.
      - f1refly 5y ago
        One machine is always the server and the other one the slave to it, it's like that with most transfer protocols, including scp and nfs
  - marcodave 5y ago
    Back in the early '2000s we had two home PCs with Windows (98 and 2000/XP), it was a breeze (relatively) to make the two PCs see each other in the LAN, using the legacy workgroup + shared folder/drive letters. of course security was near nonexistent, but it was home LAN, and convenience trumped all. Nowadays I have NO idea if I could do a similar setup with Windows 10 without resorting to the cloud
    - RMPR 5y ago
      You can still do that! Make the PC see each other in the LAN is just a matter of ticking one box. I typically create a folder somewhere and give r/w access to everyone then I proceed to log in with the credentials of the computer then put whatever I want. After I am finished I delete the folder. I think it uses SMB under the hood.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  Yes, it is really sad. I suspect it has to do with anti piracy, that there is no universal simple working solution. (What comes to my mind, is that windows removed the option to record the audio playing directly - which means slightly advanced users can still record their songs from spotify and co, but the majority cannot)
  - GoblinSlayer 5y ago
    Also people have nothing to share: they only consume.
atoav 5y ago
Syncthing is actually pretty great for this purpose. I used it to keep my music collection, pictures etc. synced between my computers and my phone. Nowadays I use nextcloud, mostly because it allows easier sharing with third parties and comes with calendar etc.
rk06 5y ago
I use Whatsapp for that purpose. 1. create a group with some one on your contact list. 2. Kick the other person out of group 3. now, attach any file you want to the group and access it via whatsapp web. Pretty simple to setup and use. for larger files, i would use ftp client on Mobile and use it to transfer files
- conradludgate 5y ago
  FYI you can even text yourself on WhatsApp without needing a group
  - rk06 5y ago
    I tried looking for it. but i couldn't find how to do it. how does one do that?
    - altbdoor 5y ago
      You basically have to start a conversation with yourself. AFAIK, there is no way to do that in the mobile app, so you will need to use those Whatsapp redirectors, and redirect to your own number. I made this phone number -> Whatsapp redirector that you can try. Zero server interactions, only JS. https://altbdoor.github.io/whatsapp-redir/ https://altbdoor.github.io/whatsapp-redir/
    - danlugo92 5y ago
      "Click to Chat" in play store. "Whatsapp Dialer" in app store. Or clicking on this link (replace example phone # with your phone number): wa.me/17861234567 1 is US's country code. 786 is Miami's / Operator code 1234567 is the phone number
      - spurgu 5y ago
        This seems incredibly clunky compared to Signal where you by design can message yourself without any hassle (and you're called "Note to Self" in the chat list).
12ian34 5y ago
I remember using infra red for this purpose, around 15 years ago using an IR receiver I got from a Lego Mindstorms set... it felt easier back then!
spurgu 5y ago
Yeah I do this with files/links/notes/numbers on Signal, where I have myself pinned to the top (Signal calls yourself "Note to Self" in the chat list).
BiteCode_dev 5y ago
It's very slow for big files though, and requires several clicks on the 2 devices. If you are on the local network, kde-connect is still the golden standard provided you use linux (even with gnome) and android: - click on the top bar menu to select your device - select the file - done It uploads automatically in the download folder of the other device. It uses the local network speed. Doesn't require additional clicks. But as soon as I'm on 4G, telegram saved messages is what I use too. In fact, I use it to takes vocal notes, pictures of stuff to remind me later, schedule reminders (yes, it has delayed messages!) and so on. It's my inbox basket for GTD at this point.

Used to use sharedrop.io but found the “saved messages” option in Telegram is just the most zero friction option for mobile <-> desktop transfers.

by dmje 5y ago

Used to use sharedrop.io but found the “saved messages” option in Telegram is just the most zero friction option for mobile <-> desktop transfers.

grandpoobah 5y ago

I do the same, and I think it's sad that this is the best we can do in 2021 :)

_trampeltier 5y ago
It's even more worse in the mobile world. I would share a lot of pictures after two weeks holiday with somebody who has an Iphone. I have an Android phone. There is not way to transfer pictures direct from Android to Iphone (holiday location != flat rate). WTF 2021.
- crtasm 5y ago
  Use an app like https://www.lonelycatgames.com/docs/xplore/wifi-share https://www.lonelycatgames.com/docs/xplore/wifi-share over the local wifi (or make the android a hotspot to connect directly) ?
  - _trampeltier 5y ago
    Yes if course there are Apps. There are Apps for everything .. but this should work just without something special.
    - crtasm 5y ago
      you want hotspot/wifi filesharing standard with the OS? would be useful indeed but I'm not surprised we don't have that. maybe running python -m http.server in Termux is more attractive.
- GoblinSlayer 5y ago
  Open the picture on the screen and let iphone scan it.
dandanua 5y ago
Yes, today it's much harder to transfer files in a local network without using cloud (or external coordinator), for some reason.
- capableweb 5y ago
  Is it? If you have the IP of the sender/receiver, it's trivial to use even something like netcat to send/receive files. Samba works as well if you want something more user-friendly and integrated with the traditional file explorers on various OSes.
- sekh60 5y ago
  Samba, NFS, SSH, scp, there are tons of ways to locally transfer files without a server if you know the IP address.
  - denton-scratch 5y ago
    Samba without a server? Maybe this is a new feature, I must look into it.
    - f1refly 5y ago
      One machine is always the server and the other one the slave to it, it's like that with most transfer protocols, including scp and nfs
- marcodave 5y ago
  Back in the early '2000s we had two home PCs with Windows (98 and 2000/XP), it was a breeze (relatively) to make the two PCs see each other in the LAN, using the legacy workgroup + shared folder/drive letters. of course security was near nonexistent, but it was home LAN, and convenience trumped all. Nowadays I have NO idea if I could do a similar setup with Windows 10 without resorting to the cloud
  - RMPR 5y ago
    You can still do that! Make the PC see each other in the LAN is just a matter of ticking one box. I typically create a folder somewhere and give r/w access to everyone then I proceed to log in with the credentials of the computer then put whatever I want. After I am finished I delete the folder. I think it uses SMB under the hood.
hutzlibu 5y ago
Yes, it is really sad. I suspect it has to do with anti piracy, that there is no universal simple working solution. (What comes to my mind, is that windows removed the option to record the audio playing directly - which means slightly advanced users can still record their songs from spotify and co, but the majority cannot)
- GoblinSlayer 5y ago
  Also people have nothing to share: they only consume.

atoav 5y ago

Syncthing is actually pretty great for this purpose. I used it to keep my music collection, pictures etc. synced between my computers and my phone. Nowadays I use nextcloud, mostly because it allows easier sharing with third parties and comes with calendar etc.

rk06 5y ago

I use Whatsapp for that purpose. 1. create a group with some one on your contact list. 2. Kick the other person out of group 3. now, attach any file you want to the group and access it via whatsapp web. Pretty simple to setup and use. for larger files, i would use ftp client on Mobile and use it to transfer files

conradludgate 5y ago
FYI you can even text yourself on WhatsApp without needing a group
- rk06 5y ago
  I tried looking for it. but i couldn't find how to do it. how does one do that?
  - altbdoor 5y ago
    You basically have to start a conversation with yourself. AFAIK, there is no way to do that in the mobile app, so you will need to use those Whatsapp redirectors, and redirect to your own number. I made this phone number -> Whatsapp redirector that you can try. Zero server interactions, only JS. https://altbdoor.github.io/whatsapp-redir/ https://altbdoor.github.io/whatsapp-redir/
  - danlugo92 5y ago
    "Click to Chat" in play store. "Whatsapp Dialer" in app store. Or clicking on this link (replace example phone # with your phone number): wa.me/17861234567 1 is US's country code. 786 is Miami's / Operator code 1234567 is the phone number
    - spurgu 5y ago
      This seems incredibly clunky compared to Signal where you by design can message yourself without any hassle (and you're called "Note to Self" in the chat list).

12ian34 5y ago

I remember using infra red for this purpose, around 15 years ago using an IR receiver I got from a Lego Mindstorms set... it felt easier back then!

spurgu 5y ago

Yeah I do this with files/links/notes/numbers on Signal, where I have myself pinned to the top (Signal calls yourself "Note to Self" in the chat list).

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

It's very slow for big files though, and requires several clicks on the 2 devices. If you are on the local network, kde-connect is still the golden standard provided you use linux (even with gnome) and android: - click on the top bar menu to select your device - select the file - done It uploads automatically in the download folder of the other device. It uses the local network speed. Doesn't require additional clicks. But as soon as I'm on 4G, telegram saved messages is what I use too. In fact, I use it to takes vocal notes, pictures of stuff to remind me later, schedule reminders (yes, it has delayed messages!) and so on. It's my inbox basket for GTD at this point.